ICC Training

[Guest]

Wanting to go places, I think it is about time I did an ICC course.

I bought the RYA book and note that ICC's can be given for other courses.

Is any other course more suitable than the standard ICC one for power boats?

I ask because I don't want to do the RYA navigation bit again if I can avoid it. I have the usual day skipper theory but trying to practice the navigation bit while bouncing along at 30 kts proved to be simply farcical. I never managed to draw a line on the chart let alone three, and those divider points... (Always use the GPS/Plotter now)

Why isn't the ubiquitous GPS part of the course anyway?

Geoff


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[longjohnsilver]

I did the ICC a few years ago, there wasn't any navigation involved.

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[hlb]

Oh! I never new you were an expert........./forums/images/icons/shocked.gif

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Haydn

 

[BarryH]

Dunno if you've done'em, but do one of the power boat courses if not. Do level 2 or if you have it do the next one up.

Why isn't gps part of the nav course? Don't know, were'nt in it when I took dayskip many moons ago. Spose the sylabus was written in Nelsons time.

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[longjohnsilver]

Well you do now!

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[Gtdog]

The ICC should be a 50/50 theory and practical course.
Chartwork should realy not be overlooked.
One of my students can attest, as we bought his 55 Squadron back from Dilette (Coastal skipper course) last August, the Yanks (Who own the gps system) turned it off, as the Indians were threatening the Pakistanis with a nuke.
We then found his two 10" colour chart-plotters intergrated with radar and C charts, to be quite a waste of several thousand ££s.

In February whils delivering a vessel to Falmouth from Poole, the system was degraded to an in-accuracy of two miles.

Trust the Charts, the GPS can lie!

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[longjohnsilver]

Don't disagree with you, all I was saying that when I did my ICC navigation to the best of my memory did not play a part, or if it did it was minor.

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[jon_bailey]

My uderstanding is that the ICC (International Certificate of Competence) is not a course, it is a certificate administered by the RYA and handed out provided you can demonstrate suitable competence.

The powerboat level 2 is a RYA administered course that operates to a formal program that usually lasts for two days and covers both practical and theory. If you pass your PB level 2 you can apply for and be awarded an ICC by the RYA because of your PB level 2 qualification.

When I did level 2 last year there was little real chartwork because as you say it is difficult whilst travelling along at 30kts. It does however, give you appropriate navaigational skills to deal with this. I can recommend the course and the school I used.

Although GPS was mentioned it was not a major part of the course and is not a replacement for real passage planning!!!

The qualification is slightly different for Inland Waterways.

I hope that this is reasonably representative of the facts and helps.

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[duncan]

OK but do you want that fishing certificate now or are you goin gto do anothr module of the course?/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[jon_bailey]

I don't think my level of competence is sufficient yet. A lot more practical tuition is needed with a suitably experienced skipper.

It is just a pity that I don't know one.

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[Renegade_Master]

Come out to sunny Spain and do your day skipper in nice calm waters, see web site below CGN, Sun Coast

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[Gtdog]

Trouble with doing the Dayskip in spain is that it would be the non tidal sillibi and worthless for Northern use!

If you are looking for tuition there is a vast list of sea shcools on the RYA web site.

I could drop in my number here but that would be cheeky!

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[hlb]

Oh. I think he does the tidal thingy. Cos it goes up and down about six inch where he is. Trouble is, he dont believe on the two hands on the big sticks approch. Dont know what he's doing with the other one. Can any one guess!!!..../forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Haydn

 

[Renegade_Master]

Scuse me Gtdog we are a fully TIDAL sea school, fully approved by the RYA.
Down to location you see, in the Ballearics yer cant do it, but as we are near Gib & Portugal we can teach tidal. CGN Sun Coast

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[Renegade_Master]

Oh you I go up and down more than 6 inchs/forums/images/icons/smile.gif about 600-800mm actually
And my other hand is busy directing my crew whilst the one is on the throttles.
See my reply to Mr dog

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[hlb]

Oh! I've already looked at Mr Dog."Scuse me Gtdog we are a fully TIDAL sea school" What bloody difference does two foot make. I can paddle in that!!
So with the other hand your sticking two fingers up!!! Right............../forums/images/icons/smile.gif/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif/forums/images/icons/shocked.gif

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Haydn

 

[Renegade_Master]

Re: hlb

See my post back to dog 3rd May 14.01 all will be explained about the Tidal bit doh.........


(psstt ..... means you can plan a course in tidal waters with all that entails)

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