I need suggestions for a paint that will flow!

[cygnusv]

We're on the hard, and getting to the end of a paint job on our 1951 mahogany boat's hull. We've previously used Sikkens, but because it's not available now (bought out by International, I understand, and removed from the UK market), we decided to use Rylards.

With 2 (Rylards) undercoats, and their gloss, (using their very expensive 'conditioner'), I am bitterly disappointed. The finish on the 2nd gloss coat is simply NOT acceptable. I was considering a 3rd gloss coat, but really do believe that I would be wasting my money using the same paint.

I should have been secure with 2 gloss coats, but clearly am not, therefore I intend to use another paint manufacturer for the 3rd coat.

Can someone recommend another oil based enamel paint that flows? I would prefer NOT to use International because of their (alleged) damn cheek in removing Sikkens from the UK market.

We are booked back into the water in just under 3 weeks and I need to make a decision very soon.

Some serious advice will be very much appreciated. I will be talking to Rylards as well. I'll report the results of that conversation. :disgust: (so far)

 

[Porthandbuoy]

I don't know if it will work with Rylards, but I've added Owaltrol oil to Teamac paint. It definitely helps flow and maintaining a wet edge.

 

[cygnusv]

I don't know if it will work with Rylards, but I've added Owaltrol oil to Teamac paint. It definitely helps flow and maintaining a wet edge.

Thanks for the suggestion Porthandbuoy. Rylards 'paint conditioner' is supposed to do the same job. I chose their own (expensive) version of Owaltrol because it had their own name on it, but no advice on the label, and precious little on their website. I worry that my idea of a 'traditional oil based boat paint' may have been way off the money. I hope not. We'll see. Regardless, I intend to talk to the company, and will share my experience.

Whatever happens, I am not happy with the results so far when compared to previous results using other products.

I would like to hear from others of an enamel product that I can use for the final (3rd) coat. Any views?

 

[PhillM]

I use eppifanes nautifort. Goes on easily, looks fab and it's easy to touch up.

We stripped back to bare about 4 years ago, built up a few layers with primer, then pre Kote and then three coats. For the past 3 years I've knocked back the top coat then applied two coats nautifort. This year I was short of time so knocked back and did one coat. She still looks great.

 

[Tranona]

Despite your objection to International suggest you use Toplac. Whilst it is true that they have withdrawn the Sikkens brand from the marine market because many products were virtually identical to International equivalents, they have relaunched some under the International brand such as Woodskin which is a development of Cetol. Toplac has been on the market unchanged for more than 15 years and it is deservedly popular because it is easy to apply, long lasting, good colour retention and easy to touch up.

 

[LittleShip]

Weathershield.

Many wood boat owners use this, I'm one of them.

I normally paint under the worst conditions.... Winter. Weathershield is a very forgiving paint that will give a good gloss. Try a small area before you disregard it, I think you will be surprised at how good it is.

Tom.

 

[cygnusv]

Weathershield.

Many wood boat owners use this, I'm one of them.

I normally paint under the worst conditions.... Winter. Weathershield is a very forgiving paint that will give a good gloss. Try a small area before you disregard it, I think you will be surprised at how good it is.

Tom.

I'll take a look at that Tom, thanks. I've actually been following your adventures on here. All the best, Stu

 

[cygnusv]

Despite your objection to International suggest you use Toplac. Whilst it is true that they have withdrawn the Sikkens brand from the marine market because many products were virtually identical to International equivalents, they have relaunched some under the International brand such as Woodskin which is a development of Cetol. Toplac has been on the market unchanged for more than 15 years and it is deservedly popular because it is easy to apply, long lasting, good colour retention and easy to touch up.

Hi Tranona

Although it went against the grain - I have used Toplac. I have to say that not only did it flow well it was a pleasure to use and looks great! In reference to LittleShip's response in post #6, I had already bought the Toplac when I saw the post. I have other, smaller work to do though, and am definitely going to give the Weathershield a good long trial.

Many thanks for the input, Stu