I must be mad??

[poter]

All previous incarnations with boats have proved expensive and bank threatening. So why should this project be any different?
Having posed a few queries on the boards and got some sensible answers, I have just started to count the cost. ‘No don’t do it’, a voice said, but I went ahead anyway… Oh dear!!! The pacemaker had to work overtime to stop SWMBO getting the insurance, & the boat.

WHY is it that anything marine is 200% more costly and even then, according to recent posts, is not ‘fit for purpose’

Good example: 1 gas cooker for home with all mod widgets……. £280
1 gas cooker for Marine application (which means it won’t rust for three months…….. £399
What is the justification?

Oh hum I am sure that these forums are overrun with this type of post….. but come on chaps, what do we do about it? More to the point where can you get a cheap cooker?

poter


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[Evadne]

If you want a cheap gas cooker that will rust away in three months, then look no further than your local caravan and camping shop.

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[mickshep]

A good friend is busy refitting a Warrior 35 at present. she has just bought a caravan gas cooker from a car boot sale It looks identical to a well known "marine" cooker apart from the sticker on the front, Surprise, surprise it even had blanking plugs in the sides which lined up with the bolt holes in the gimbals, I'll try and find out which make it is and who supplies the caravan model these days. Mick

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[hlb]

Just bought a domestic cooker, twice the size and much better quality than marine one, for £149!!

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Haydn

 

[pvb]

Cheap cookers...

Caravan accessory shops are good places to look. Also inland waterways people. Non-marine cookers often use enamelled panels rather than stainless steel, but they're much cheaper and quite durable unless your boat's very wet inside. I put a "Voyager 2000" cooker in my parents' Broads cruiser a few years ago - it was virtually identical to the Plastimo cooker and quite a bit cheaper.

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[Talbot]

Suggest you are not looking hard enough. We bought our stainless steel clad cooker at the price you are quoting for a camping type. A very quick search of the net (first hit) gave me http://www.yachtinguniverse.com/shop/page76.htm which is the cooker type that we bought and are happy with.

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[poter]

Re: Maybe but I don\'t think so!

Thanks for all the reply's.

However with reference to the Caravan cooker solution, I suggested this to a very well known south coast marine chandler today, as he could not get anywhere near the prices & I was willing to give him say 10 to 15% margin. He stated that caravan cookers do not have a flame safe ignition system and you were therefore unlikely to get insurance.
He was also very insistent that the cookers for boats were made of marine stainless etc. etc.

I still can not see the justification in some instances of a cooker being 2 to 3 TIMES the price of an equivalent domestic/lpg gas cooker.
There are many instances of the big 'But its for a Marine instalation' argument, but this has got to rate as one of the most scandalous!

There must be a manufacturer out there who can give a sensible answer???


poter.
PS Just to prove a point that you don't have to pay stupid prices. I purchased direct 100mts of 14mm 3 strand white rope for less than half what a chandler wanted.


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[Jools_of_Top_Cat]

Re: Maybe but I don\'t think so!

I had to replace my cooker after the old one failed the survey report, no flame outs.

The new cooker I bought, a Nelson; does seem solidly built all stainless. Has bigger drip trays as you will spill more at sea. It has full flame out on all burners, a strong glass door and a test point on the back (required for BSS). It was expensive, as much as I paid for home oven and hob, but I also needed insurance so I was had over a barrel.

I looked at many ovens at the boat show, and this was the best of them in this range. My only quarm, it does not seem to get as hot as the rusting lump of pig iron that I removed.

It makes the galley look 100x better though.

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