I fancy a woodburner on board . . .

[sarabande]

I hate hate hate oil lamps and candles. They create moisture in the air at roughly equal proportions to the amount (mass) of fuel burned, and fill the cabin with harmful carbon particulates, some of nanometric size.

Should be banned on the grounds of fire danger and threat to health. Stuff the emotional atmosphere they are alleged to create. It's only atavistic to sit in a cave with a tiny flickering light, and to think about food and sex.


OP; have a word with Beadle and Caer Urfa. They know about heating Colvic Watsons.

 

[chinita]

We have a 2kw charcoal burner heating a 32ft boat. Too hot sometimes we leave the hatches open!

That looks very neat. May I ask what it is?

 

[ChrisE]

I've got an eberspacher and it's great, but not a lot of character to a hot air blower so I'm thinking of installing a small woodburner - a Dickinson Newport seems like a good idea, it's compact and looks good but what are the drawbacks to having a woodburner on a fibreglass boat?
All advice welcome.
(boat is Colvic Watson 29, spends time in UK, on continental inland waterways and in the med)

We have a diesel driven Newport and it is the dog's doodahs. Have you considered one of them? You still get a nice flame to look at, plenty of heat and they run on the same stuff you feed your engine.

Edit, I've just realised who you are! We spoke at the Yachthaven when you'd just arrived back. If you want to see our Newport Rival Spirit is moored not 50 yards from you, drop me a PM.

Chris

 

[Red]

I fitted a Dickenson Newport to the bulkhead of my Vertue 25. It transferred my boating experience as I was often too busy in the summer with work to use the boat, winter boating was common. I burned either charcoal or coal, I found that the coal was easier to keep in overnight. This stove has a place on top to heat up a can and does not fall off when healed. The most difficult part of the installation was the through deck fitting but I got the correct Charlie Noble from West Marine.
If you are tied up alongside another boat it is best to advise them about your intention to light up because of the worry of smelling smoke. Coal had the best aroma.

 

[KINGFISHER 8]

The main drawbacks with getting a woodburner are that before very long you'll start wearing corduroy trousers with sandals and take up smoking a pipe, probably convert to gaff rig and start eating muesli for breakfast and when it's lit you'll sit there in a fog contemplating why we are here! ... oh and your sailcovers will turn black!

 

[Poignard]

That looks very neat. May I ask what it is?

http://www.bengco.co.uk/

 

[BlackPig]

I have a wee charcoal burner. I use barbecue blocks in it. Remember to clean the chimney. I let mine clog up smoked out the cabin a bit. I would like to see the flames/glowing charcoal, but I would get one again if I ever change boats. I have a "working boat" so the dirt just adds to it.

 

[KINGFISHER 8]

http://www.bengco.co.uk/

I've got one of those ... haven't used it yet ... lump-wood charcoal recommended (whatever that is) ... I've read that they get extremely hot ... I must give it a try!

 

[snooks]

I hate hate hate oil lamps and candles.

That's your opinion, we love our lamp, so ner

They create moisture in the air at roughly equal proportions to the amount (mass) of fuel burned,

A litre of fuel lasts about a month of live aboard use, i.e daily use.

Breathing creates far more moisture..IIRC each person breaths out about 2 litres of moisture a night while sleeping

and fill the cabin with harmful carbon particulates, some of nanometric size.

I used to work in a pub before the smoking ban, 15-30 hours a week for two years. Do you really think a couple of hours every few weeks is a problem?

I live in London FFS

 

[mjcoon]

lump-wood charcoal recommended (whatever that is)

Probably to distinguish from drawing charcoal sticks (which are no doubt suitably expensive!).

... I've read that they get extremely hot ... I must give it a try!

For smelting iron, perhaps?

Mike.

 

[prv]

lump-wood charcoal recommended (whatever that is)

Probably to distinguish from drawing charcoal sticks (which are no doubt suitably expensive!).

To distinguish from briquettes, which seem to be partly made of non-flammable cement (at least the cheap ones I find in other people's barbecues).

Pete

 

[mikeinkwazi]

That looks very neat. May I ask what it is?

This is a BENCO, charcoal burner. Benco Engineering, Unit 5.1 Hamble Point Marina,
School Lane, Hamble, HANTS SO31 4JD

Not cheep, but it works very well and is easy to light. Burns Lumpwood Charcoal, other types are too hot burning.

 

[sarabande]

That's your opinion, we love our lamp, so ner

It's not opinion, it's fact.

A litre of fuel lasts about a month of live aboard use, i.e daily use.

Breathing creates far more moisture..IIRC each person breaths out about 2 litres of moisture a night while sleeping

So you lose 2 kg overnight do you ?

I used to work in a pub before the smoking ban, 15-30 hours a week for two years. Do you really think a couple of hours every few weeks is a problem?

Depends on your approach to risk, dunnit ? And carbon particles are often nanotubes which cross membranes, such as those which exist in the lungs and around kidneys, eyes, etc. Chronic inhalation of carbon (which is what happens in even a Snooks' cabin) is going to increase the chances of mesothelioma - enough dead miners around to prove that.

I live in London FFS :

Get yourself a PP3 face mask, weigh it and wear it for a week. Then weigh it again and check it for sooty ****.

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[Blueboatman]

So many of the nicest things in life are a killer, eh!
Remember the avocados are bad/ all fats are dangerous regimes?
If an oil lamp with adequate ventilation helps remove some of the stresses of London living, long live the humble oil lamp I say.
( with no disrespect to what is written about nanoparticles, but the body is quite good at clearing out toxins, even 5 ciggies a day, in some corners).

 

[mikeinkwazi]

Should be banned on the grounds of fire danger and threat to health. Stuff the emotional atmosphere they are alleged to create. It's only atavistic to sit in a cave with a tiny flickering light, and to think about food and sex.

Good thread, but the wife says I have to go and light the fire. We live in Scotland with about three hours of daylight at this time of year, so what else to do but think about food and sex?

 

[mikeinkwazi]

The main drawbacks with getting a woodburner are that before very long you'll start wearing corduroy trousers with sandals and take up smoking a pipe, probably convert to gaff rig and start eating muesli for breakfast and when it's lit you'll sit there in a fog contemplating why we are here! ... oh and your sailcovers will turn black!

How true!

 

[Poignard]

And making unkind remarks about 'Solent sailors'

 

[alant]

This is a BENCO, charcoal burner. Benco Engineering, Unit 5.1 Hamble Point Marina,
School Lane, Hamble, HANTS SO31 4JD

Not cheep, but it works very well and is easy to light. Burns Lumpwood Charcoal, other types are too hot burning.

No website?

 

[chinita]

No website?

As Parsifal said:

http://www.bengco.co.uk/


You may be gorgeous but you really must learn to read the whole thread through.

 

[rotrax]

If I can just draw your attention to wood burning? Some..not all.. pallet wood can be a health risk if burnt on a wood burner. The pallets are impregnated with a chemical to kill pests/bugs and will give off fumes when burnt. Have a look on Google at ...Danger burning pallets.. There's a lot of info on there which may be of interest.

This reminds me of a funny story. In the 1970's I was manager of a large Honda Mororcycle Dealership. The bikes came semi KD- knock down-and had to have a fair bit of assembly to get them in the showroom. They were delivered in wooden crates. Small-up to 100cc three to a crate,up to 400cc two to a crate and bikes above this size were packed in ones. The crates were scrapped. I have always been into recycling and proposed to a director that the cleaner/handyman who often had time on his hands could break down the wooden crates, cut and bundle the wood and the Company could get brownie points for giving it to the local pensioners. This was agreed and by the late autumn most who could use it had had supplies delivered and the Vicar and Town Councillors were saying nice things about the firm. THEN one day a very irate old guy came in asking if we were taking the p**s! Apparently he had spent half an hour trying to light his allotment of firewood with no success bar a smoke filled room and two boxes of matches wasted. Unknown to us,Honda's shippers had insisted the timber was treated to make it almost impossible to light by normal means.........