I don't get it?!

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Yes, I get the FPB's, but I just don't get this. The interior is just bare race boat... yuk. Does this get anyone excited?



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So, if I understand correctly it's a racing yacht converted to diesel powered trawler? It had some virtues until I looked at the price tag and then it went down like a lead balloon. Even if I could afford it!
 
I,am struggling to understand it .
@9-10 knots only then why not stick back a mast and flap some sails ? To have a even longer range .
Also the living /entertainment spaces don,t work @ that price .
Take an old Italian lady SL 62/72 , or similiar 20 odd years old or so with knacked engines or not knackered ( rip out sell on ) refit a pair of J Deeres for D speed @ what ever knots say 10-12 .
This way you get the accomodation -with nice storage like proper wardrobes and decent bathrooms / better layout /FB / swim platform -etc etc --AND the long range for a fraction of price if you want to spend months poolting about here and there!
 
80 ft and only one decent looking room, the rest look like some form of punishment still it has a very good motor.
Is she still finned?
 
I don't get it either. Ugly. Owners say it is perfect cruising boat, yet for sale at 400 hours. You would have to out of your mind at 3/4 mill usd
 
I've seen the same thing done with a worn-out algae-covered 22 foot yacht after the mast fell down, to make a cheap fishing launch. But at this end of the market it makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm actually a little surprised that Berthon took it on.

Pete
 
its a Steve Dashew type thing , like Windhorse etc.

All Day long Distance any weather.

My boat 48 ft 19 knots , 2x 370 and the fuel consumption horrifies me over a long distance.

So if you are happy with 10 knots and you want 2 persons handling accommodation for perhaps a 50ft boat the concept is not bad.
Low lcg, low drag, low fuel cons.

however you need a draft around 1.5m.
 
Bandit said:
its a Steve Dashew type thing , like Windhorse etc.
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...apart from all the ways that it isn't.

The immense strength in construction won't be there, because it was built as a lightweight racing hull.

All Steve Dashew's unbelievably obsessive attention to stability and dynamics (he embeds accelerometers in his hulls, to feed months of real-world data back into his computer models for next time) won't be there, because the boat was designed for a completely different purpose.

All the carefully-considered multiply-redundant overspecced systems aren't there. Stabiliser mechanisms in their own watertight compartments just in case? I doubt it. Four separate steering systems? A spare freshwater pump already plumbed in so when it fails in the middle of your shower you just change two valves over? Enormous hydraulic crash pump? All electronic engine parts supplied in duplicate, test-fitted on the engines, then vacuum packed and stowed on board?

The interior layout is awkward, and the general style is so bad that it looks like a tidier version of the semi-homeless guy in an old trawler "converted" by knocking up some partitions from OSB and putting an old mattress on some pallets.

Oh, and you'll fall off the foredeck because for some reason they gave up with the guardrails just ahead of the doghouse.

It's not an expedition or proper voyaging vessel, it's not a luxurious motor yacht, it's not a sailing boat any more - it's just a bit of a mess really and I can't imagine why anyone would want it.

Pete
 
Bouba said:
Is she still finned?
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Going by the ballast figures, I assume they took off the original sailing keel and added some kind of stumpy replacement. 2.3 tonnes of iron on the bottom apparently, and that's far less than an 80' sailing yacht would have. Plus another 2.7 tonnes of lead in the bilges, which is unlikely have been in the sailing design.

Pete
 
prv said:
Going by the ballast figures, I assume they took off the original sailing keel and added some kind of stumpy replacement. 2.3 tonnes of iron on the bottom apparently, and that's far less than an 80' sailing yacht would have. Plus another 2.7 tonnes of lead in the bilges, which is unlikely have been in the sailing design.

Pete
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I suspect she will sell at what ever price somebody can convert her back and still get a cheap 80ft sailboat out of her
Perhaps as a sweetener the owner has kept all her original gear and that's factored in
 
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Looks like a weird pointless mess design wise.

The economy isn't anything to write home about either considering the fact you have a single engine with no back up and all that free power...

It must have the worst accommodation of any 80 foot power boat :disgust:
 
I don't like being negative about other people's boats but I'll make an exception this time. All the things everyone else has said, plus another. Dashew puts his galley up in the saloon. When we were looking for our motorboat we went on some Dutch steel designs with the galley down below and realised immediately this was completely unacceptable for us.

At one stage when I saw how much we would have to spend to get the sort of thing we were looking for I did wonder myself about getting a large Westerly yacht hull and refitting it as a motorboat. My guardian angel was looking after me the day I decided that was an absolutely mad idea.
 
I bet the heart sank of whichever Berthon broker got the short straw of having to punt this one around. You know they're desperate when they describe 43t of carbon composite costing $3/4m and having a 5.9L diesel engine in it as having an 'ultra low carbon footprint'
 
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