Hurst Castle collapse.

[Capt Popeye]

Surely not a deliberate dumbing down of an established body of expertise ? Maybe the National trust should be reading this thread as it sounds rather like their recent approach to their staff as well.

Well Mr A it appears as the 'IN' Management process for some years now, thats is to close down most Technical Departments and rely upon Clerical /Admin staff with a new Department formed to contact Outside Contractors to undertake any Technical /Building task etc

This happened at the BBC TV studios, V&A Museum, English Heritage plus other smaller establishments

 

[PhillM]

I have a slightly different view of 'conservation' as i often wonder what we are conserving.... in this case a man made monument to/from a brief period in time. There have been many other periods of time in that location that are not protected. But now we have an event in our current period of time. So, lets preserve that.

 

[Blue Sunray]

I have a slightly different view of 'conservation' as i often wonder what we are conserving.... in this case a man made monument to/from a brief period in time. There have been many other periods of time in that location that are not protected. But now we have an event in our current period of time. So, lets preserve that.

The Palmerston forts (what's collapsed was not Henry VIII vintage) are not exactly rare, nor I would submit particularly historically significant compared to say 1940 or early1800's when there was a much more realistic threat that they might actually be used.

 

[Mark-1]

man made monument to/from a brief period in time.

Not brief - in use as a fortification from Tudor times to WW2, and a superb museum today with a cool boat trip for tourists visiting the New Forest.

Certainly worth preserving IMO.

The problem is can you preserve something if the 'land' it's built on is disappearing? Also, what happens to the Solent and Keyhaven/Lymington if the Spit goes?

 

[PhillM]

Not brief - in use as a fortification from Tudor times to WW2, and a superb museum today with a cool boat trip for tourists visiting the New Forest.

Certainly worth preserving IMO.

The problem is can you preserve something if the 'land' it's built on is disappearing? Also, what happens to the Solent and Keyhaven/Lymington if the Spit goes?

We do not disagree. As you say “ what happens if“ I suspect we may just live to find out.

 

[Boathook]

Not brief - in use as a fortification from Tudor times to WW2, and a superb museum today with a cool boat trip for tourists visiting the New Forest.

Certainly worth preserving IMO.

The problem is can you preserve something if the 'land' it's built on is disappearing? Also, what happens to the Solent and Keyhaven/Lymington if the Spit goes?

Didn't the spit nearly get broken through many years ago? I believe alot of money was spent on repairing it due to the changes that it would cause to Solent, Poole and Christchurch bays.

 

[LittleSister]

Didn't the spit nearly get broken through many years ago? I believe alot of money was spent on repairing it due to the changes that it would cause to Solent, Poole and Christchurch bays.

It did get broken through, and (as told to me by someone involved) the anticipated effects on the Solent if the break were left to grow were so adverse that Government money was found almost overnight to do emergency repairs and put in train a more thorough-going project (mainly a lot of Norwegian(?) rock along the Spit, IIRC), subsequently implemented.