Hurley 22 - standing rigging, chain plates, mast compression

[bobdoughty]

Hi. Sorry it's a bit of a composite post but the three things are interlinked. Firstly, does anyone have any idea how much it would cost to replace the standing rigging on a Hurley 22? Second, the lower shroud chain plates (which are glassed in) have got a bit of fore and aft movement in them - has anyone had this problem and found a solution? And lastly, there's a bit of mast compression on the coachroof (a known problem with H22) which will become worse with a new rig. Nick at the the Hurley Owners Association has lots of info on the fitting of kingposts - what experiences have other owners had? As ever I'm indebted to the collective wisdom! Thanks, Bob

 

[bobgoode]

I ahd a H22 many years ago, and spent a lot of time with Nick via the HO association. You can drop the mast with the help of a couple of fit friends. Cleat the genoa halyard off secure to the mast and put a 4:1 handy billy between the halyard and the cleat near the bows. Bring the line back to a cockpit winch. Winch tight then let off forestay and f'wd lowers. Allow the mast to incline aft. Catch it under the spreaders with a ladder and then complete the lower. Take the rig to somwewhere like Jimmy Green Marine who will make up a new set. I would guess 400 squids for the parts and the job is quite easy with some helpers. (Mine was 200 in 1995 FWIW)

On the 22 the mast compression is carried by the bulkhead. On some this is a two part affair and the joint fails allowing flex. If you PM me with your address I can send you an article from PBO (March 1996) that I wrote which you may find helpful.

 

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[PeteCooper]

I don't think that the forum search facility will cope with looking for an avatar, so perhaps we should point the op towards Silkie? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[machurley22]

Don't know about costs for replacing the standing rigging although I would imagine that t'other Bob isn't too far out in his estimate. Mine is now 10yo so I should be thinking about replacing it in the not too distant future and would be interested to hear how you get on. Are you intending to replace the bottle screws? If not I would suggest cleaning carefully and inspecting closely.

No problems with my chainplates so far (fingers crossed, touch wood) so no help there either I'm afraid but again would love to hear what you find and what the solution is.

I did install a kingpost after my first season though. I was lucky enough to have a friend who welded small end plates onto a SS tube for the cost of materials (£30) and the hardest bit was determining the angles for the plates since both top and bottom need to slope.

Another issue is determining how much you are currently sagging and how much to push up and the effect this will have on the lengths of the new standing rigging. Have you recently bought the boat i.e. have you sailed her much yet?

When I removed the old plywood pressure pad from under the tabernacle (inside the boat) I discovered how wasted were the coach bolts holding it on. Drifting these out took several hours swinging a very heavy hammer (a large rock in fact) and you' might well have to do this too; if there's been enough water ingress to make your coachroof plywood soggy there's probably been enough to corrode these bolts.

Very definitely worth it though.

AFAIK the bulkhead in the 22 is not structural since it is in the wrong place and far too flimsy. IIRC Ian Anderson's original design did include a stuctural bulkhead directly under the mast but this had to be moved aft under commercial pressure to be able to claim that she had 4 berths.

Fed up typing now but if I can be of any further help...

 

[bobdoughty]

Thanks for all the detailed info: if you've got any photos of your kingpost you could could PM to me I'd love to see them as I'm a bit worried about the impact on accesss to the forward bunks. There are tips on fixing the chainplate on the HOA website. I'll keep you posted on the rigging - hope Bob's right!