Humber charts

dylanwinter · 11 Nov 2011

what do I need

at the moment I have reeds and the imray tidal havens

what else do I need given that I am planning to go as far inland as the keels will allow - I will be dropping the mast

Dylan

ALPHORA · 11 Nov 2011

ABP publish charts for the Humber, updated every few weeks. B Cooke in Hull, or Kildale Marine at Hull marina stock them I believe. The channels wander so an up to date chart is advisable, especially if you are heading out of the main channels

Bellamica · 11 Nov 2011

Humber Mud

dylanwinter said:
what do I need

at the moment I have reeds and the imray tidal havens

what else do I need given that I am planning to go as far inland as the keels will allow - I will be dropping the mast

Dylan

If you are new to the river, I suggest, once west of the bridge that you stay to the edge of the buoyed channel. The charts are updated monthly by ABP, nothing stays the same for long except the navigable channel, the buoys (30' boats) are moved regularly. Shipping is busy up river at the start of flood and down river with the ebb but is restricted to the channel.
The Coast Guard will connect you to Humber Rescue if you run aground, make the call quick if you do. Humber Rescue are very slick and if called in time can extricate most boats from the mud, if not they will help you secure your boat take you ashore then return you to your craft on the next tide all for free but please make a sizeable contribution if that should occur. You need a strong and reliable engine, as tides can be in excess of five knots so if you don't make refuge before the ebb you probably wont, the mud is very very very sticky make sure you have plenty of water gas you may need a strong cupper......may see you at South Ferriby (good pub and food right by the lock gates, lock keepers like 24 hours notice if out of office hours)...Fair winds

dylanwinter · 11 Nov 2011

triple keel

Bellamica said:
If you are new to the river, I suggest, once west of the bridge that you stay to the edge of the buoyed channel. The charts are updated monthly by ABP, nothing stays the same for long except the navigable channel, the buoys (30' boats) are moved regularly. Shipping is busy up river at the start of flood and down river with the ebb but is restricted to the channel.
The Coast Guard will connect you to Humber Rescue if you run aground, make the call quick if you do. Humber Rescue are very slick and if called in time can extricate most boats from the mud, if not they will help you secure your boat take you ashore then return you to your craft on the next tide all for free but please make a sizeable contribution if that should occur. You need a strong and reliable engine, as tides can be in excess of five knots so if you don't make refuge before the ebb you probably wont, the mud is very very very sticky make sure you have plenty of water gas you may need a strong cupper......may see you at South Ferriby (good pub and food right by the lock gates, lock keepers like 24 hours notice if out of office hours)...Fair winds

the slug has triple keels

are there many steep mud banks that are going to get me

it does sit astonishingly upright given the chance

so going aground generally does not bother me that much

Dylan

MrCramp · 12 Nov 2011

You don't want to go aground/on the mud with the tides running as they do. The Humber is unlike anything you will have come acroos on your travels so far.

You do need to buy both the charts, the Upper Humber and the Lower Humber, and then you need to update them with the weekly notices issued by ABP.

You might cruise the Humber once, you will not return!!

dylanwinter · 12 Nov 2011

I won't risk it then

MrCramp said:
You don't want to go aground/on the mud with the tides running as they do. The Humber is unlike anything you will have come acroos on your travels so far.

You do need to buy both the charts, the Upper Humber and the Lower Humber, and then you need to update them with the weekly notices issued by ABP.

You might cruise the Humber once, you will not return!!

now you have frightened me off

I have decied that I will skip the Humber and go on up to the Tyne

Dylan

AntarcticPilot · 12 Nov 2011

MrCramp said:
You don't want to go aground/on the mud with the tides running as they do. The Humber is unlike anything you will have come acroos on your travels so far.

You do need to buy both the charts, the Upper Humber and the Lower Humber, and then you need to update them with the weekly notices issued by ABP.

You might cruise the Humber once, you will not return!!

Agree - and the channel edges are STEEP so it is very easy to go aground and roll.

ianc1200 · 12 Nov 2011

Dylan

Ripon Motor Boat Club's Guide to the North East Waterways;

http://www.rmbc.org.uk/cruisingguide.html

regards

IanC

Beadle · 12 Nov 2011

Dylan

Don't let the doomsayers put you off.

The lower river from Spurn to Hull is busy but well marked and easy work. make sure you listen to CH12 Humber radio and you will get warning of shipping movements

Enter the river and if it isnt low water or very near drop the hook off the pier inside the point and wait for LW. Keep to the North of the main channel until near Paull and hen take the marked channel to the north bank rejoining the main channel upstream of Paull.

You should be in nice tome to drop into Hull Marina. Go to Kildale Marine and buy the latest upper river chart.

Leave Hull Marina (on the next tide) and follow the line shown by the BWB chart. Be prepared to drop out of the channel if there is any shipping approching (keep a good look out astern - they sneak up on you). Look at the chart before moving out of the channel - it may be you have to go to port to have enough water to clear the channel.

If you are taking the River Ouse pass close to Blacktoft Jetty.

The channel up the Ouse is fairly straightforward for a small boat. Keep to the outside of bends where there is the best water. Proably best to drop into Goole. Call sea lock on 12 They will give you directions to the 2 "marinas" just off the Aire and Calder. They will also open the bridge for you but you may have to wait a bit.

Go for it!

dylanwinter · 12 Nov 2011

excellent instructions but....

Beadle said:
Dylan

Don't let the doomsayers put you off.

The lower river from Spurn to Hull is busy but well marked and easy work. make sure you listen to CH12 Humber radio and you will get warning of shipping movements

Enter the river and if it isnt low water or very near drop the hook off the pier inside the point and wait for LW. Keep to the North of the main channel until near Paull and hen take the marked channel to the north bank rejoining the main channel upstream of Paull.

You should be in nice tome to drop into Hull Marina. Go to Kildale Marine and buy the latest upper river chart.

Leave Hull Marina (on the next tide) and follow the line shown by the BWB chart. Be prepared to drop out of the channel if there is any shipping approching (keep a good look out astern - they sneak up on you). Look at the chart before moving out of the channel - it may be you have to go to port to have enough water to clear the channel.

If you are taking the River Ouse pass close to Blacktoft Jetty.

The channel up the Ouse is fairly straightforward for a small boat. Keep to the outside of bends where there is the best water. Proably best to drop into Goole. Call sea lock on 12 They will give you directions to the 2 "marinas" just off the Aire and Calder. They will also open the bridge for you but you may have to wait a bit.

Go for it!

plan ning to come through the baqck door after the inland route through Lincoln

even if I ge to Boston on tuesday night planning to leave the boat in boston for a week and another week looking at Lincoln

D

Beadle · 12 Nov 2011

Ahh

That changes everything

Not sure what you will find in Boston to amuse you for a week - but hey-ho.

dylanwinter · 12 Nov 2011

boston

Beadle said:
Ahh

That changes everything

Not sure what you will find in Boston to amuse you for a week - but hey-ho.

only going to park the boat there

then go home and come back the next time the sun shines

D

Croak · 12 Nov 2011

The sun will shine all next week : )

Mike Gowland · 12 Nov 2011

Sailing the Humber

The River Humber remains one of the most challangeable water ways in GB but in say that the challangeable is well worth it and remains one of the best training grounds there is, after all Ellan McArthur trained here. Provided you stick to the main channels you'll be fine and on a rising tide most areas are navigable.

I have sailed here for the last 15 years with no mishaps.

Mike Gowland
KHYC Commodore

alexrunic · 13 Nov 2011

yet more negative comments about one of the most interesting and beautiful rives in the uk. When was the last time any of you sailed on the Humber?

As well as the two ABP charts i would recommend the boating association charts for the Trent and the Ouse. there are many sholes on both rivers. It might be worth checking with the British Waterways in case of any lock closures.

http://www.theboatingassociation.co.uk/Merchandise.html

MrCramp · 13 Nov 2011

Do you know where you are going to leave your boat in Boston? It is 4 years since I did my regular run up through there to the Trent but all the moorings above the Grand Sluice had to be vacated about this time of the years as the water level was lowered to allow for water management in case of floods.

I think there is a lock now opened into another waterway, but I am not sure.

If you do have some mooring arrangement then Boston is an interesting place to visit. The Weatherspoons pub does decent meals at a good price.

Lakesailor · 13 Nov 2011

If you miss it out your whole concept will be flwaed. May as wel go home now.
Just travel on the flood, then you won't get stuck.

Or travel out of the channel, away from the edges. (Best get a hovercraft)

dylanwinter · 14 Nov 2011

ktl flawed concept

Lakesailor said:
If you miss it out your whole concept will be flwaed. May as wel go home now.
Just travel on the flood, then you won't get stuck.

Or travel out of the channel, away from the edges. (Best get a hovercraft)

that is probably true - missing the Humber would wreck the whole thing

but as other posters have said above -- I am going to die on the Humber because it is such a dangerous place and only the very, very skilled or fool-hardy should ever contemplate going there

as I am the latter.... rather than the former

I might well give it a go

D

trevorr · 14 Nov 2011

dylanwinter said:
but as other posters have said above -- I am going to die on the Humber because it is such a dangerous place

D

20 years on the humber in a boat with a 6ft draft and I think I'm still alive (Just)

Check out http://www.humber.com/Estuary-Information/Navigating-the-Estuary/Chart-viewer/index.asp
Shows you all the "cliffs" .

Trev

Icarus39 · 14 Nov 2011

trevorr said:
20 years on the humber in a boat with a 6ft draft and I think I'm still alive (Just)

Check out http://www.humber.com/Estuary-Information/Navigating-the-Estuary/Chart-viewer/index.asp
Shows you all the "cliffs" .

Trev

+1 - well not quite 20yrs, but we were out a week ago and it was great

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