HR 40C

Quiddle said:
I think two heads becomes an issue if you regularly have guests - especially those of a terrestrial bent. For a cruising couple, which I suspect is HR's target market, the space can be used more effectively.
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My 41 foot AWB has two heads and she is sailed, mostly, by the two of us. Just like home, there is absolutely nothing to beet “his and hers” heads. I assure you ?

She’s spacious below deck and having 2 heads doesn’t at all feel intrusive.

She also has a wide beam, carried well aft, with electrically operated, plum transom giving plenty of space in the cockpit.
 
Not certain 2 heads are needed on 40ft if the heads are by the steps down but it all turns on who you sail with and for how long. It’s clearly lovely to have a heads per cabin and a water maker to service the shower but maybe not for 40ft , I would value having a separate shower area in the heads above having 2 heads or having a separate shower completely opposite the heads ideally.
 
I suspect people who visit their boats only to sail and then go home may have different priorities for heads than liveaboards. My (centre cockpit) boat has an aft en suite. Having to put on clothes, leave the cabin, traipse past people sleeping in the saloon to a forwards head in the night would not be ideal and I agree with the OP that this is an odd design choice. TBH I found the HR40C at Boot to be a bit underwhelming. The Najad 395 CC has a head with doors to the after cabin and the saloon (next to the companionway) as well as optional second head forward.
 
Agreed if you were to need 2 heads I think some form of double door is essential. I guess the question is how squashed you can have the bow cabin to fit in that second heads on an ac boat. We just prefer the space in the bow cabin so decided not to have one squeezed in but with a cc boat I think a second one might be less an issue . Ideally one per cabin is solution with space for the water maker of course.
 
geem said:
Who gives a sh1t........
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I do :unsure:

I like to cruise in comfort so the number and location of heads was a significant factor in my buying decision. I've sailed on some boats where the smell of urine and faeces becomes indistinguishable from other decaying aromatics, like poor personal hygiene, diesel, mould, rotting food; that's why I bought an AWB and not a MAB :)
 
I suspect the only reason they haven’t added a 2nd heads is to differentiate between the next model up, the 44. I gather the 40 is in fact wider aft than the 44 so I’d anticipate there being the available space, especially with a more normal sized galley. Maybe when sales plateau in the future they will launch a Mk2 with the heads option.

I quite like the look of the 44 but I think the 40 is a bit ugly / wedge like. HR’s have really gone up in price too (unless the SEK has appreciated in the last few years)? You could get two well specc’d Hanse 40 footers and still have change. I get Rassy’s are great boats, but are they that much better? Rigs, sails, engine, hatches, windows are all common manufacturers these days eg Selden / Lewmar / Elvstrom etc

Still, Hallberg Rassy appear to be booming so I guess there’s my answer ;)
 
davidjackson said:
I do :unsure:

I like to cruise in comfort so the number and location of heads was a significant factor in my buying decision. I've sailed on some boats where the smell of urine and faeces becomes indistinguishable from other decaying aromatics, like poor personal hygiene, diesel, mould, rotting food; that's why I bought an AWB and not a MAB :)
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What a load of bowlocks. You dont need a new boat to overcome personal hygiene issues! A new boat can also have rotting food, diesel leaks, mould, and stink! You bought a new boat cos you didnt know any better?
 
I love my 2 heads I have been banned to one and the Wife and Daughter the other , the usual lines of I leave the seat up. my pee aim is off , but I dispute this , all the wet gear goes in my Heads , so does the Washing machine when off for a length of time.
Don't feel sorry for me I'm happy to not have to go onto the deck:)
 
matt1 said:
I get Rassy’s are great boats, but are they that much better? Rigs, sails, engine, hatches, windows are all common manufacturers these days eg Selden / Lewmar / Elvstrom etc

Still, Hallberg Rassy appear to be booming so I guess there’s my answer ;)
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Yes, Hallberg-Rassys are great boats; my last boat was an iconic HR352 which I owned for almost 20 years. HR boats seem to "look" right. They inspire huge levels of pride of ownership. There's a camaraderie amongst owners which is nice to have. But, in reality, and as you say, most of the kit is the same standard as you'll find on any decent AWB. Also, the construction quality is similar to many AWBs - they're not "heavily built" as a brief glance at the specs will show. I bought a new Bavaria when I sold my HR, as a new HR was going to be silly money. In truth, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the Bavaria is beautifully manufactured (thanks to mass production automation), with perfect fit and finish, no leaks, no creaks and (so far) no faults. So, if a judgement is to be made on value for money, the HR isn't going to win. But if money isn't a big issue, the HR wins on sheer emotion.
 
Not just emotion, to be fair. Insulated hull, lead keel & beautiful joinery though, as an AWB owner, I wholly agree on the value for money perspective. If you plan to plough a furrow from Hamble to Cherbourg with sanitation-sensative crew then an AWB makes perfect sense. If you want a watermaker and genny in the machinery space to tide you over in the Marquesas then a HR starts to look like a better design.
 
Quiddle said:
Not just emotion, to be fair. Insulated hull, lead keel & beautiful joinery though, as an AWB owner, I wholly agree on the value for money perspective. If you plan to plough a furrow from Hamble to Cherbourg with sanitation-sensative crew then an AWB makes perfect sense. If you want a watermaker and genny in the machinery space to tide you over in the Marquesas then a HR starts to look like a better design.
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My Bavaria has an insulated hull too!
 
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