How to advise Legend 38

[Sailfree]

Not sure it is the same one.

Assuming its not it is another they can consider. With your experience of buying the 36 how much do you think you could have got the 38 for please?

What sort of weather have you been out in.

I have owned 3 AWB's and like Flaming I don't think Cat A means anything except anything French /German over 32' is eligble. So please don't be mislead by it.

Ballast Ratios , AVS & Stix number are far more indicative. My Dufour38 classic (AVS 131 deg) got knocked down in a F9 and had a few £1000 of damage (it was out on charter) and that was better than my current AWB! Remember in the 89 Fastnet a 32'contessa survived but that has an AVS of 157 deg - most modern boats hover around the 120 deg and ballast ratios of 30%.

 

[steve6367]

I have a Legend '33 - about the perfect boat for me. I can't imagine any problems with sea keeping, I would fail before the boat did! From the 31’ up they are all Cat A and in my experience, SW 7 gusting 8 on a trip from Eastbourne to Portsmouth (one leg of delivery trip) no problems at all.

If you want Bilge Keels, good performance and good accommodation you are quite short on choice.

However if I didn't want the bilge keel would have gone for a Bav I think.

Reference Peters, if you already have one it’s not a big issue as the after sales care is provided directly by Luhrs marine (who built them at Portand) anyway.

Steve

 

[chrisrog]

thanks
I think you are the first to say nice things about the Hunter!
Do you think they are all just jealous?!

 

[misterg]

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same boats, Hunters were made in the US, Legends in the UK .. as far as I understand

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(Not to Jimi particuarly, but only because nobody else has said it):

Not to be confused with Hunter Boats Ltd. formerly of Hamble Point Marina, and Sutton Wharf, Rochford in Essex, commonly known as "British Hunter". Now in the ownership of Select Yachts.

Responsible for the Sonata, 707,27, Duette, Horizon & Channel ranges amongst others (see here )

Maybe why the 'Legend' was adopted in the UK for the US company??

Andy

 

[Norman_E]

I think that the Legend boats have great interiors, and the fitting of the main-sheet traveller to a cockpit arch is a great idea, far better than having it on the coachroof, but still keeps it from obstructing the cockpit. The backstayless rig does have one drawback, in that the mast is triangulated by shrouds which are on very much back-swept spreaders. The drawback of this is that the main driver of the boat is the big mainsail, but the spreaders limit how far you can let it out when sailing downwind. The obvious answer is to have a cruising chute or spinnaker, which is fine if you have enough crew to manage one, but not so good if shorthanded.
As others have said, pretty well all boats that size will stand up to rough conditions much better than the crew will.

 

[flaming]

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thanks
I think you are the first to say nice things about the Hunter!
Do you think they are all just jealous?!

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Not really!
Like I said, I wouldn't be queuing up to buy any of their current offerings.....

 

[wotayottie]

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do i remember a rudder falling off one mid atlantic (ARC) a few years ago....

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Quite possibly. But then if you were to do some research, my bet would be that you wouldnt find a single mass manufacturer whose boats had never had any problems crossing the Atlantic. One swallow doesnt make a summer - or the wintry equivalent of that saying.

 

[pendlecats]

We looked at a 36 and considered the 38, very nice boat, still keeping our options open, were keeping a keen intrest in any more on this thread.
The Legend 36 by the way had been a perminent liveaboard for the owner for over 3 years

 

[steve6367]

I think people buy the boat that suits them. Plenty of people very happy with their Legends as can be said for most makes I am sure.

However I do try to limit my comments to things I have direct expereince of. I am not sure this is true of some people.

Steve

 

[glenwarburton]

I bought a new US built Legend 38 bilge keel from Peters Opal last July - just before they went bust.
My opinion is they are great value for money, given that you are buying a $200,000 boat for £100,000.
As obvious, the interiors and cockpit are superb. But what I like best is the unusual sailing gear. The B&R rig means the fully battened main can be roached. OK, it cannot be pushed back because the spreaders get in the way - but in 15 knots of wind it is still better downwind than a 37' Westerly Typhoon without a chute. Upwind it seems able to point higher than fin keelers as well.
The boat is configured for big people - it helps to be 6' tall to put the sail away, for instance.
The failure of Peters was a shock but the support from Luhrs UK is very good.
The boat is basically over-powered; you need to reef early as weather helm quickly takes control away. But in light winds the excessive sail area is a race winner. We have the optional 3rd reef.
The bilge keel option allows you to go places barred to fins.
We have been out in a F9 and the boat was fine. There is a bit of slap in a big sea when motoring head into wind - the only disadvantage I can think of for the bilge keels.
I would buy another one. I'm not sure I'd fancy an atlantic crossing in anything less than 60' but being 40 miles out in an F7 wouldn't worry me in a Legend 38.
Cheers,
Glen