How to accommodate a mooring line on a yacht with an anchor already stored on a bow roller ??

[Minerva]

Maybe you can just hoist it up and lash to underside of pulpit out the way whilst in mooring mode

this is what we do - on approach to mooring, our Knox anchor gets lashed to pulpit with a sail tie. The roll bar design makes this quite easy and secure.

On leaving the mooring the anchor is unleashed and returned to roller. Same sail tie for 3 or 4 seasons now and no sign of chafe.

Easy, quick & secure.

 

[skyemark]

I am in the process of purchasing a Sun Odyssey 33i which has the 'standard' stainless bow support & roller with the anchor stored on it hanging over the bow. The boat will be kept on a swinging mooring so will need to accommodate a mooring strop guided / located in the center of the bow which is currently occupied by the anchor..... So what can be done ideally to let the 2 options co-exist ?? There are a number of temporary options but I need a permanent solution and I would welcome any suggestions idelly with photos / diagrams to illustrate!

Having operated a charter fleet off Swinging Moorings for many years I'm very familiar with the issue you are describing. The solution on your permanent mooring is to have a "Y" shaped bridle as shown in the photo from the cleats on each side. One hard eye, two soft. You need to do a mock up trial and error on the lengths of the repective legs so that it doesn't foul the anchor when pitching. A swivel is needed at the shackle to the buoy to prevent the legs twisting together. It's substancial rope, 30mm Nylon multiplait in the case of this SO419 and 100% sleeved for chafe protection. For using visitor moorings which have a single pennent I carry a plain length of the same rope with a soft eye in each end to replicated the V shape. The eye in the mooring pennent is then centered on this which is again led over the cleats both sides. Slightly more chance of this set up catching the anchor but I work on the yacht not being unattended for any length of time in these circumstances. Also beware the extra overall length means you drop back much further from the mooring so occassionally a problem if the neighbours are close together.

 

[Tranona]

I assume that was a joke ?

No deadly serious. The major markets for these boats is in locations that do not use swinging moorings so it is designed to suit those environments. Even in the UK the majority will be kept in marina berths or similar moored alongside.

Post#23 is one solution. some Bavaria and Hanse owners I know with similar issues have added a second roller

 

[dansaskip]

Personally I do as others have suggested - I lift the anchor off the bow roller and stow it on deck suitably lashed down. The bow roller is much. better designed than bow fairleads for mooring purposes plus there is a far greater risk of chafe as the boat swings about. However Skyemark's post #22 does seem a reasonable solution.

 

[Tranona]

Personally I do as others have suggested - I lift the anchor off the bow roller and stow it on deck suitably lashed down. The bow roller is much. better designed than bow fairleads for mooring purposes plus there is a far greater risk of chafe as the boat swings about. However Skyemark's post #22 does seem a reasonable solution.

That is impractical on the boat in question. It was designed specifically for the anchor to self stow on the roller with the chain disappearing into the (opening) locker immediately aft where the chain is stowed (and probably a windlass). Look at the photos. The older ones like the OPs has the bow roller cantilevered off the starboard bow and the hewer ones like the one in post#22 actually have the anchor shank and chain running through a slot in the moulded in bowsprit. Very different from older designs with narrow stems but clear foredecks because the chain locker is below decks.

 

[Poey50]

A bit like this boat?

You could probably do something with a second bow roller but that may mean you could not fit a prodder at a later date. If you already have the prodder fitting it may not be easy of even possible.


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As seumask has suggested the most sensible solution may be to stow the anchor in the well or on deck. This is not odd or unusual and has a number of sailing advantages, esp for the smaller boat.
The technique is not to remove the anchor for mooring but leave it in it's den until actually needed for anchoring the boat.

This is exactly what I had in mind when choosing an anchor. A suitably sized Spade - because it is sans roll-bar - both fitted in the chain locker and is just light enough for me to man-handle. It only appears for anchoring and never stays on the bow roller so that's always free for the mooring strop.

 

[roaringgirl]

I don't really see the problem. I kept my boat on a swinging mooring for a few years in Edinburgh without moving the bower from the roller - there were 2 pennants on the mooring, one for the starboard cleat, one for the port cleat.