How much will your heating cost you this winter?

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We are part-time liveaboards (Plymouth) spending 4/5 days a week on the boat. Having become extremely skilled at dismantling/cleaning my Eber (Hydronic D5), I decided to see what happened if I ran it on white, road diesel. I have to say, that it does indeed seem to run cleaner, at least I would have had to strip/clean/rebuild probably twice now if I'd stayed with red. However, it is a balance between the quite considerable extra cost of white compared with the hassle of doing the fix every few months! Still, it hasn't been too cold yet (that's tempting fate!), but if it does get cold we have a big drip-feed Refleks heater as well as the fall-back electric fan heater to use!

Stay warm...

We run ours occasionally for an hour on Paraffin.
Paraffin is well known as a method for decoking the Ebers.
 

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Living on a Moody 33 on the south coast last winter took about 80L of diesel for the Eber and about £30 of electricity for everything (I also have a Rutland 913) including an electric radiator left on during the particularly cold times. Started with a full tank of red diesel and kept it topped up with road diesel. Always warm on board and no problem with the Eber - so far. This winter will be cheaper as I now live in Abu Dhabi!
 

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Hello Jellyellie,
I just baught a Colvic Watson 31'6 the boat is in Greece foir the moment, I shall go next January to start to live aboard all round the year.

The boat is fully equiped with a warm water heating system(with radiators), the boiler is a Reflex and can use diesel but I was told by the last owner not to use diesel it is too expansif but rather use a king of dearomatised petroleum that is cheaper and just as well.
I will be able to tell you the coast ... next springtime.
Please excuse my English as you can imagine I am French ... nobody is perfect
 

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Heating

An interesting subject, a wood burner would to my mind be the optimum heater for reasons already quoted, providing adequate ventilation is provided due to carbon monoxide poisoning.
Kerosene/paraffin heaters also need adequate ventilation for the same reason, they also give off one gallon of water to one gallon of fuel burnt, not good for combating condensation.
 

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A comparison??

OK, so it's not on the boat, but for comparison, I've just had my house' Oil (Diesel) fired boiler tuned, and the correct nozzle installed etc, and after a week of monitoring and measuring, it's using 2 litres an hour. yes yes, the volume to be heated in the house is much, more than the boat, but it'll still burn 2 litres of the stuff, every hour.

At just on a, Euro a litre.......Humffff.

Wish I was living on the Boat, there the eleci's free...!

Ah well, me thinks I'll turn down the stat', just a bit.
 

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32 ft boat, I have a charcoal burning heater which gets through 3.5- 4 bags approx every 2 weeks. £4.99 for 5 kilos per bag. So, £10 ish per week. Boat's nice and warm, heater slow burns 24hrs a day ('aint dead yet.. Ventilation but no draughts!..and a good smoke alarm..:D). I use token in the slot showers ashore.
 

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How much will your heating cost you

OK, so it's not on the boat, but for comparison, I've just had my house' Oil (Diesel) fired boiler tuned, and the correct nozzle installed etc, and after a week of monitoring and measuring, it's using 2 litres an hour. yes yes, the volume to be heated in the house is much, more than the boat, but it'll still burn 2 litres of the stuff, every hour.

At just on a, Euro a litre.......Humffff.

Wish I was living on the Boat, there the eleci's free...!

Ah well, me thinks I'll turn down the stat', just a bit.




Hello,

The Reflexs heating ask only 0,30 L/H and 0,70 Watt/H for the electric pump
 

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How much will your heating cost you

32 ft boat, I have a charcoal burning heater which gets through 3.5- 4 bags approx every 2 weeks. £4.99 for 5 kilos per bag. So, £10 ish per week. Boat's nice and warm, heater slow burns 24hrs a day ('aint dead yet.. Ventilation but no draughts!..and a good smoke alarm..:D). I use token in the slot showers ashore.

Hi,

Well the charcoal is usefull if your boat stay along the pier all winter, when sailing between Grec island during the winter as I plan to do is not for me a good solution, I dont even know if I could find some charcoal in Greece, probably yes but ?.

Grec winter is often windy(along coasts), rought is the sea, so I will have to waite for meteo windows to sail or motor from a marina to an other.

Amicalement.
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Nobody has yet mentioned the heat pump - very cheap if you are on lekky. We have lived aboard for 6 years , two in the UK and 4 in the Med, and have a reverse cycle Air Con/Heating unit which works like a fridge. Reverse the process and you have heating. In heating mode it takes heat out of the water - even when its only 5 degrees - and warm air is ducted through the boat. Made good use of it this summer in the Eastern Med as an Air Con unit.

The only downside is the noisy compressor - but you could site that away from the main living area.

Our 12,000 BTU unit gives out 3 Kw of heat but only uses 1Kw of AC.
 

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Lovely to hear about such a range of heating techniques!

Apart from its annual wobbler, I think my Eberspacher is fantastic for keeping me warm as a liveaboard. It doesn't use a lot of fuel and heats the whole boat up to a fantastic temperature. And on the contrary to a few comments, it's ideal for liveaboard use - Ebers hate being left for ages unused, so regular use suits it very well.
 

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Definitely spoke too soon... Schnebby worked beautifully last night, turned the switch this morning, and nothing. I think it might be the fuse, but it is now Friday night, and I have spent too many Friday nights working on Schenbby, so it can wait until the morning!
 

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we have a reflec heater drip fed with no rads heats a cw 34 no problem and it takes all the condensation out running 24/7 last winter it used about £12 per week at about 75 degrees
 

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Just back from a long week working on the boat in Milford Haven, living in the motorhome. Heating and cooking is by a Gaslow refillable autogas cylinder. It was empty when we left home, filled up with about 15 litres costing £10 and heating is still running. Heating was on morning and evening every day. Insulation in the van seems to be excellent.
 
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