How much should reupholstering flybridge and cockpit cushions cost?

[Ian h]

I had my Hunton cockpit all recovered by gent who used to work for Hunton. to replace coverings but reuse foam was £1600 2 years ago. I thought very good value for money

The beige upholstery here
http://www.martinpaynemarine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/IMG_76251.jpg

 

[PEJ]

I did my old Sealine T51 flybridge, cockpit and bow cushions incl new foam for about £2,600. It was a couple of years ago but I think that is correct.

I got Dan Buckingham to do it but he used a chap who was ex Sealine factory. Dan does work on boats based in the med from time to time I think but re-upholstery is a bit different. He took all the old cushions away as templates, of course.

 

[rafiki_]

The guy who is ex Sealine is Loui. He traded as Quayside Leisure based in Cannock. He upholstered my Azi 39 saloon in decent leather for about £3500 a couple of years ago. Inc new foams. He uses a guy called Ade to do the strip and refit. Excellent service, and quality job. Still looks like new.

 

[BruceK]

That's what I thought, but BruceK doesn't seem to agree...

LOL. No such thing Jimmy. I thought it fair based on the labour requirements. The designer of your, or at least my linked example, should be applauded for design elegance vs cost efficiency whereas mine should be beaten with a stick for crass vulgarity that only the Americans seem capable of achieving in a styling attempt during the era mine was made. Compare the number of pattern pieces between the two. You'll soon see what I mean. In all the posts of cheaper examples (edit that include pics) , one thing stands out. Minimal patterns or slab sided single piece with ribbed stitching. I don't know what Deleted User has, just based on boat size and presumed opulence I'd expect more panel patterns etc etc and a jump in cost

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

LOL. No such thing Jimmy. I thought it fair based on the labour requirements. The designer of your, or at least my linked example, should be applauded for design elegance vs cost efficiency whereas mine should be beaten with a stick for crass vulgarity that only the Americans seem capable of achieving in a styling attempt during the era mine was made. Compare the number of pattern pieces between the two. You'll soon see what I mean. In all the posts of cheaper examples (edit that include pics) , one thing stands out. Minimal patterns or slab sided single piece with ribbed stitching. I don't know what Deleted User has, just based on boat size and presumed opulence I'd expect more panel patterns etc etc and a jump in cost

Fair enough, all good. Deleted User has a Ferretti 63 so there are a lot of cushions to deal with, but iirc the shapes are fairly straightforward.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Fair enough, all good. Deleted User has a Ferretti 63 so there are a lot of cushions to deal with, but iirc the shapes are fairly straightforward.

Actually there arent that many cushions and nor are they out of the ordinary in terms of shape. Its just that they are quite large

 

[tico]

Think I'd remove them and freight to Martin deuce

 

[jcwads]

I’ve got a pretty much like for like quote as JTB for my Targa 40. Same parts and through Tockfields. Breakdown and refit is my own work.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

I’ve got a pretty much like for like quote as JTB for my Targa 40. Same parts and through Tockfields. Breakdown and refit is my own work.

Tell Kevin I said hello! :encouragement:

 

[lambohill]

I priced 55 footer for all cushions including bow sunpad. Prices 13E to 15E in SoF.
Same spec. take home, local upholstery co. £7k
You can work it out on a SQM basis, but its s roughly £350 per seat in simple terms, be it a seat or a lounger at UK / self managed if you are so inclined, or up to seemingly E1k a seat in med marinas if thats your preference

 

[Brent Swain]

I use Sampson, PVC saturated 3 oz dacron. Much tougher than standard vinyl, and cheaper.

 

[MapisM]

I'm being quoted €10500 for flybridge cushions (large sunbed, double helm seat + dinette) + cockpit cushions (2no) in Silvertex using existing foam.

That's one of the first jobs I did last summer on the DP after purchasing her, directly from the same Venetian upholsterer who originally worked for the yard.
All as good as new now, and there's a helluva lot of cushions on my f/b. Possibly 10% less than in yours, but maybe not even that.
And while I was at that, I made also the cockpit cushions even if they could have lasted longer (as our wives would surely agree, you can't risk to have slightly different shades even in cushions placed in different areas of the boat, can you...? :ambivalence.
So, overall the surfaces involved were roughly comparable, and I had them completely reupholstered, including all bottom sides and new zippers, for just about one third of that amount.
Sounds like I won't come to SoF for any other refitting job in the future...

PS: can't tell you the exact type of material, though (I can ask if you wish to know).
I was suggested to use exactly the same stuff of the original ones, and since actually they weren't too bad after 13 years, I thought that whatever it is, is good enough.

 

[petem]

Actually there arent that many cushions and nor are they out of the ordinary in terms of shape. Its just that they are quite large

Mike, I thought yours were similar in design to the Fairline Targa 40's above? You don't want single flat panel for each seat (without detailing) as it would look ghastly IMO.

Also, have you decided on a colour / material. I must admit that I'm a bit of a traditionalist and like the original white vinyl (each to their own) and am slightly surprised that BCUK have reupholstered that way for the T40 above (assuming it's them that's commissioned the refit).

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Mike, I thought yours were similar in design to the Fairline Targa 40's above? You don't want single flat panel for each seat (without detailing) as it would look ghastly IMO.

Also, have you decided on a colour / material. I must admit that I'm a bit of a traditionalist and like the original white vinyl (each to their own) and am slightly surprised that BCUK have reupholstered that way for the T40 above (assuming it's them that's commissioned the refit).

The upholstery on that T40 is the oe design for the early boats, and might well be original.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Mike, I thought yours were similar in design to the Fairline Targa 40's above? You don't want single flat panel for each seat (without detailing) as it would look ghastly IMO.

Also, have you decided on a colour / material. I must admit that I'm a bit of a traditionalist and like the original white vinyl (each to their own) and am slightly surprised that BCUK have reupholstered that way for the T40 above (assuming it's them that's commissioned the refit).

Well they're sort of the same style with a thigh bolster in the base and yes I wouldnt want completely flat bases. The quote I have is for a dog sick coloured Silvertex material but I could rapidly convert to being a white vinyl traditionalist if the price was cheaper

 

[petem]

The upholstery on that T40 is the oe design for the early boats, and might well be original.

I realise that but the rest of the boat looks so mint I find it hard to believe that the upholstery is original (which would surely be pretty knackered now).

 

[jrudge]

Well they're sort of the same style with a thigh bolster in the base and yes I wouldnt want completely flat bases. The quote I have is for a dog sick coloured Silvertex material but I could rapidly convert to being a white vinyl traditionalist if the price was cheaper

The price of the material is not significant.

Silvertex is E21 per linear metre ( and it is either 1.4 or 1.6m wide)

White vinyl may or may not be cheaper - but if you are doing it you want a nice feel to it and Silvertex has quite a good texture and is less sweaty when sitting on it than plain vinyl.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

The price of the material is not significant.
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OK didnt realise that. I definitely prefer the look and feel of Silvertex myself. Is it as stain resistant as standard vinyl and as easy to wipe clean?

 

[Portofino]

There’s a machine shop on our marina couple of ladies on the machine s big tables ,one fellar .
Normally folks seating cushions dumped out side and inside .
Rolls of common stuff on rack @ the back of the shop .
Rent for the floor space is approx €10 pa -

Mikes pricing is from the keep putting the price up until demand drops off then drop back a bit school of thought .
It’s not the cost in the trad sense of the product , wherby you work out your overheads , fixed costs , materials , social charges for staff ,then add a bit for your self .

That’s why we are wondering how €21 / M stuff ends up €10k when a few M is knocked up into copying existing work .
He,s asking that cos he thinks he can achieve that in the SoF boat market .

There a shop in town selling Moncler ski jackets for CHF 2700 , that’s over £2 K for a ski jacket .
Ok designer label - but still made in Bangladesh or Turkey or an island in the S China sea ?
Not a great deal of difference ( Ok fancy zips ,few more pockets etc ) from an £80 jacket from the likes of C /A .
Prob is there are no cheap / ave shops in this town .

On a sale rail those very jackets ( odd sizes btw ) are reduced to CHF 400 , with the CHF 2700 label still on .

So I reckon in Antibes with recovering and designer label clothes in posh ski resorts - they charge in the absence of proper competitors - what works - moves .

There will be some one in another nearby marina , hubby / wife outfit , reupholstering using the trad business costing modal as are ski shops in the valleys and cities ( retail outlets ) in Switzerland selling acceptable priced / quality ski jackets .
So a day to unpick
A day to mark out / cut
2 days stitching
1 day fitting
5 days work for two + material .

So each Pax on € 40,000 p/a ( 80,000for the couple self employed)
6 weeks hols
That’s €870 / week each
So give them rounded up €1800 + fixed costs €25000 / 46 = 545 per week

So now it’s € 2350 + materials + TVA if applicable-
Call material round up to 700 ish inc Velcro etc
Looking @ north of €3k + TVA

Which is where MapishM was .

I,ve seen a upholstery shop I think in San Remo marina .btw

 

[jrudge]

OK didnt realise that. I definitely prefer the look and feel of Silvertex myself. Is it as stain resistant as standard vinyl and as easy to wipe clean?

Yes. It is basically a vinyl - but textured in a cloth like manner which (a) looks nicer (b) allows a bit of air movement causing less sweat in sitting on it in shorts for lunch.

Cleaning wise it is the same as vinyl ( as at the end of the day that is what it is).