How much is a brand new traditional steel boat?

rustybarge said:
Unfortunately What you say is true.

......but could you find a boat as beautiful as the Hout Bay 50 for sale anywhere second hand?
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I think that this schooner could be a contender (?)

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...el-Schooner-2487691/Palmetto/FL/United-States

Or how about an attractive John Atkin 40' gaff steel schooner for US$ 50,000?

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...d-Schooner-2506291/Greenport/NY/United-States

Or a 50' marconi staysail schooner for US$69,000?

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...er-2584310/San-Carlos,-Guaymas,-Mexico/Mexico

I did a general search on Yachtworld for steel schooners under 60' long, and the examples above 'came up', along with quite a few other interesting vessels.

Or, I know she is not steel (she is traditional timber construction), but this Murray Peterson gaff schooner could be considered to be just as pretty as the Hout Bay 50?

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1963/Murray-Peterson-Schooner-2817241/France
 
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That John Atkin is lovely and only $50 k.

A naval architect would hardly get out of bed for $50k if he was designing a new steel boat for you!
 
Marihona, Built in Risor, Norway in 1957. Pitch pine on oak. Volvo 36. The Atkins' brief in 1950 was for a yacht to circumnavigate with a couple, and the original, Vixen, has just completed her second lap..

There are two or three in the USA, mine is the only one in Europe I believe. She is built like a tank and has gorgeous lines, 32' on the WL, displacement 12 tons!

The design is like a little Colin Archer lifeboat, but less slow..

Vixen has a big web presence if you want more photos, her owner Bruce Halabisky does articles, has a blog etc.

I'm in a yard hemmed in by Jeanneaus etc, can't get a decent shot.

I am looking for crew for a Baltic cruise, up to the Wooden boat festival in Risor in August, where she will get a warm welcome in her birthplace..cheers Jerry
 
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Totally ;)

A really nice chap as well, he turned up two wks after I bought her, with a vanload of chandlery which hadn't been on the inventory.
EG this matching, priceless and unobtainable Simpson Lawrence Baro and Clockwork Alarm Clock, non-ferrous materials, nice loud tick !
 
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Slightly off topic I know, but can anyone tell me how much it costs to have a hull professionally fitted out as a percentage of the bare hull ? Eg, for a 40' hull at £40k would it cost £40k, or £80k or ...? Obviously if you have it done with gold taps and stuff the price could be as high as you like, but I mean with "normal" workmanlike materials and design for a sloop.

Boo2
 
Hull and deck less than 20% of total cost to basic standard. Easy to see how it adds up. Engine 10k, rig 20k. Not forgetting 3000 hours or more of labour. So 40k hull is 200-250k to basic standard using contract labour and ignoring storage costs. Of course one of the attractions of steel is the potential to DIY and use second hand parts, particularly if a traditional design. However 3000 hours is a big chunk out of ones life.
 
brokethebox said:
Lovely jerry. Ours is an old Nobby and needs quite a lot of work before I'll be tempted to take her across the North Sea!
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Thanks! Do the Nobbys race each other, like Falmouth working Boats for example? They get a bit silly in Cornwall, like using Dyneema rigging etc on Victorian fishing boats !
 
Tranona said:
Not forgetting 3000 hours or more of labour.
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Yep, that's the killer : 3000 * £40 is £120k right there. Completely beyond my pocket. But the idea of picking the hull you like and having it built specially and choosing the layout and every fitting is a very attractive daydream :-)

Boo2
 
Boo2 said:
Yep, that's the killer : 3000 * £40 is £120k right there. Completely beyond my pocket. But the idea of picking the hull you like and having it built specially and choosing the layout and every fitting is a very attractive daydream :-)

Boo2
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Exactly. That is why although many like the dream, few can afford the reality.
 
Tranona said:
The problem with building in steel is that it attracts DIYers who make a bad job of it or do not finish at all. One construction costs are high whatever the hull material as the hull is often less than 20% of total cost. Good steel hulls can be built using laser cut steel from digital plans as they do in Holland. However the investment in design and need for good welding mean it is no longer a cheap backyard job.

The material of choice for one off schooner building is wood epoxy. Many have been built this way, particularly in the far estate but tend to end up as rich kids toys rather than basic boats.
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Here in BC , most commercially built steel boats are often the most poorly built, compared to back yard boats, built by practical people, for their own use.
They are also the least expensive.
 
This would do for me .... Laurent Giles, steel, £275k odd. (see JR of this parish!) ... :encouragement:

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