how exactly do you fit a new sea toilet??

[symondo]

Now I understand the basics and it looks straight forward, but....

I removed the old 1 today, to discover they weren't big screws but bolts. No idea how I'm supposed to get a hand under the floor to locate a bolt onto a thread?!

I ended up cutting the bolts to remove the old broken unit. Now I have a lovely space for a new toilet.

Can I just use slightly larger screws? Or should it be bolts? Any input would be handy

 

[David2452]

Provided the substrate is up to it then good big coarse threaded stainless screws will be fine, through bolting is almost always the best default but if it can't be done it can't be done.

 

[symondo]

Would butterfly bolts be a suitable option? Surely it'd spread the load better?

 

[sunquest]

Would butterfly bolts be a suitable option? Surely it'd spread the load better?

A previous thread with the same problem suggested cutting a panel in the grp under the toilet and then fitting an access cover.

 

[Tam Lin]

Mine was on a raised platform. Cut a hole in the side in order to reach the bolts. Put a neat panel over it. Looks OK.

 

[ghostlymoron]

Or use one of these http://www.seapost.co.uk/allen-range-of-dinghy-hatch-covers--click-to-view---prices-from-578-p.asp over the hole.

 

[Sandyman]

how-exactly-do-you-fit-a-new-sea-toilet ?

HEADS

 

[VicS]

how-exactly-do-you-fit-a-new-sea-toilet ?

HEADS

TAILS! ......... I win!

 

[jerrytug]

It ought to be strong enough to withstand a 100 kilo person crashing on to it in a seaway, so bolts and backing pad are in my view essential.
Remember if you use screws and they get ripped out, then the bowl will shift, the pipes may part, causing unpleasantness at best, and possibly the sea pouring in to the boat!
I think you should cut what you need to cut, to get bolts in, cheers Jerry

 

[simonfraser]

Bolt it to a pad, epoxy the pad down ?

 

[keensailor]

Bolt it to a pad, epoxy the pad down ?

25 mm ply, counter sink bolt heads that fix toilet to pad, then screw and glue pad down onto fibreglass moulding. This is my recent install

 

[PCUK]

I can send you some stainless steel jack nuts that are the marine equivalent of butterfly nuts. They fit from the face side and are as good as standard nuts and bolts. PM me if you're interested.

 

[symondo]

Interesting idea with the piece of wood, and very simple.... I like simple!

pcuk... pm incoming...

 

[symondo]

how-exactly-do-you-fit-a-new-sea-toilet ?

HEADS

Toilet heads.....

Trim tabs.... boat flaps i'll get the hang of the terminology eventually but you got the idea

 

[VicS]

From the Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea

heads

the name given to that part of the older sailing ships forward of the forecastle and around the beak which was used by the crew as their lavatory. In the US Navy it was simply known as the head, but in the Royal Navy the word was always used in the plural to indicate the weather and lee sides, seamen being expected to use the lee side so that all effluent fell clear into the sea. They were floored with gratings so that the sea could assist in washing them clean. The name is still used today for the modern flush toilets fitted aboard every ship and yacht

 

[RichardS]

I can send you some stainless steel jack nuts that are the marine equivalent of butterfly nuts. They fit from the face side and are as good as standard nuts and bolts. PM me if you're interested.

They sound interesting PCUK . I might need some of those in a few months when I replace both toilets. Could you possibly give me a UK link where I could buy some later this year?

Many thanks

Richard

 

[ithet]

My heads was originally fitted using something like these, and I obtained similar for replacement using the existing holes - I found a selection of sizes available. I think I replaced the bolts for SS ones. Google "rubber blind nuts".

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/251135195288?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95&ff19=0

 

[PCUK]

They sound interesting PCUK . I might need some of those in a few months when I replace both toilets. Could you possibly give me a UK link where I could buy some later this year?

Many thanks

Richard

Sorry Richard as far as I know I have the last ones that were made and you need to order ten thousand to get another batch made and I only have a few left.

 

[RichardS]

Sorry Richard as far as I know I have the last ones that were made and you need to order ten thousand to get another batch made and I only have a few left.

Thanks for coming back to me. I think I found some in the USA but obviously shipping has to be paid. I might not need them - I'll see what happens when I start the work!

Richard

 

[Bilgediver]

Now I understand the basics and it looks straight forward, but....

I removed the old 1 today, to discover they weren't big screws but bolts. No idea how I'm supposed to get a hand under the floor to locate a bolt onto a thread?!

I ended up cutting the bolts to remove the old broken unit. Now I have a lovely space for a new toilet.

Can I just use slightly larger screws? Or should it be bolts? Any input would be handy

If it is an old Westerly then you might get underneath from next door after maybe removing an ice box or something....You forgot to tell us which boat!