Hose for cockpit drains

rob2,

when I went to work on a hotel barge in France,I found the chain drive for the wheel steering ran in a locker under the wheelhouse sole; a very handy locker...

I found various tins of paint, tools etc all within millimetres of the steering gear and nearly died on the spot.

Couldn't agree more about heavy items in lockers next to vulnerable things like seacocks and pipes inc gas; batteries ready to be shorted are another potential source of entertainment.:rolleyes:
 
VicS said:
Looks to me like a skin fitting, a gate valve, a nipple and a female threaded hose tail.

The nipple is perhaps unnecessary because a male threaded hose tail could have been screwed directly into the valve.
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VicS - close, very close.... so today I spent some time dismantling, and it's.. skin fitting, gate valve, nipple with a piece of copper tube in it, and then a compression fitting in the final section holding the tube in place...
 
I got some clear, spiral reinforced hose from ASAP when I bought two blakes seacocks. Clear hose is handy when something goes missing in the cockpit and you suspect it may have gone down a cockpit drain. :D

The hoses on my Twister are not crossed, because there is a flexible coupling in the way, but water doesn't come into the cockpit through them.
 
Seajet said:
rob2,

when I went to work on a hotel barge in France,I found the chain drive for the wheel steering ran in a locker under the wheelhouse sole; a very handy locker...

I found various tins of paint, tools etc all within millimetres of the steering gear and nearly died on the spot.

Couldn't agree more about heavy items in lockers next to vulnerable things like seacocks and pipes inc gas; batteries ready to be shorted are another potential source of entertainment.:rolleyes:
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Seems to me you have just proved the need for everything in such a locker to be of the highest spec' not the lowest? imho that is ... :) but perhaps we

have to agree to disagree. My recommendation to the Op stands however, why 'spoil the ship' when the risks can be enormous?


My boat does have an extremely deep cockpit sole and in a good blow, heeled and doing around 6 knots, my boots begin to get wet.

The wretched fuel tanks are completely in the way not allowing the drain pipes to cross. It probably would help if the through hulls were aft of the drains to

allow venturi to work, but they are not. Deflectors, as seen on some anchor locker drains, may improve that but I think the best thing for me to do it to make

a cockpit grating to lift my feet away from the foot bath.

S.
 
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Scotty_Tradewind said:
This type of pipe is imho not strong enough.
Not worth penny pinching on such a short length.
In some boats things are shoved below alongside cockpit drain, too risky to damage imho

S.
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Blimey! Avocet's originals were made of that. I took them off to do some work and after 40 years, they'd gone so hard, I had to pour boiling water on them just so they'd go sufficiently flexible to bend them far enough to get them off their spouts!
 
Scotty_Tradewind said:
Seems to me you have just proved the need for everything in such a locker to be of the highest spec' not the lowest? imho that is ... :) but perhaps we

have to agree to disagree. My recommendation to the Op stands however, why 'spoil the ship' when the risks can be enormous?


My boat does have an extremely deep cockpit sole and in a good blow, heeled and doing around 6 knots, my boots begin to get wet.

The wretched fuel tanks are completely in the way not allowing the drain pipes to cross. It probably would help if the through hulls were aft of the drains to

allow venturi to work, but they are not. Deflectors, as seen on some anchor locker drains, may improve that but I think the best thing for me to do it to make

a cockpit grating to lift my feet away from the foot bath.

S.
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Eh ?!

Doesn't matter if junk comes from Rolls Royce or a poundshop, if it MOVES and knobbles cockpit drains or other pipes leading to water or gas leaks, jams steering or shorts batteries, it will be unpopular.
 
rob2 said:
To explain, my drains have hoses from the cockpit fittings which cross beneath the sole and connect to glassed-in stand pipes, which are above the waterline. Whilst sailing well heeled, the hoses contribute to the integrity of the hull, but static, on the mooring, the boat will not sink if they are removed.

Rob.
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I shied away from those as they seem vulnerable to being snapped off with such a long leverage.
 
Graham_Wright said:
I shied away from those as they seem vulnerable to being snapped off with such a long leverage.
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I can understand that, but again it depends on their position relative to other items and how well they can be supported. Mine are inside the engine compartment, so not exposed to the regime of a cockpit locker and are glassed to the longitudinal stiffeners which support the cockpit sole. You'd have to be trying to rip the boat apart before they got damaged.

Rob.
 
Seajet said:
Eh ?!

Doesn't matter if junk comes from Rolls Royce or a poundshop, if it MOVES and knobbles cockpit drains or other pipes leading to water or gas leaks, jams steering or shorts batteries, it will be unpopular.
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No junk in my boat......... Nothing from Rolls Royce ( the chauffeur takes it back home again) or from the "poundshop" ( at least there better not be!)
 
VicS said:
No junk in my boat......... Nothing from Rolls Royce ( the chauffeur takes it back home again) or from the "poundshop" ( at least there better not be!)
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Ah .... pound shop. I never miss an opportunity to see if there is a 'must have'.

For instance, that long thin springy thing with a magnet on the end has saved my bacon on one occasion when a bolt has gone walkabout in the bilge.

S.
 
Perhaps we are talking about different needs for different sailors as far as storage on sailboats is concerned.

There are many categories that we could identify, but I can immediately give a few.....

Interesting where most sailboat owners might fit........??


a. The racer will often do the utmost to lighten the load carried.

b. The occasional cruiser living close to an easy to get to mooring from home, may take just what's required for the trip or proposed local cruising.

c. The longer distance cruiser may see a need to carry all sorts of 'just in case' odds and ends in every conceivable low space that's available. This can include the bilge or close to seacocks, pipes and hoses.

d. The liveaboard....... You'd better ask them what they carry aboard as there is possible a huge difference in their needs.


I'm probably a mix between b & c although things have changed from one to the other and back again over the last three years.

Where do you fit, or is this worth another thread?

S.
 
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I'm an occasional cruiser living close to an easy to get to mooring from home who sees a need to carry all sorts of 'just in case' odds and ends in every conceivable low space that's available. This can include the bilge or close to seacocks, pipes and hoses.
 
alahol2 said:
I'm an occasional cruiser living close to an easy to get to mooring from home who sees a need to carry all sorts of 'just in case' odds and ends in every conceivable low space that's available. This can include the bilge or close to seacocks, pipes and hoses.
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Glad to hear it!

I was thinking I was an oddity in more ways than one.. :)

I have 12 reasonably sized tool/spares boxes on board and a host of other lockers filled to the brim.

We must compare on some occasion... :)

S.
 
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