Holding tanks in Turkey

[Marsupial]

Good morning:

We seem to be reaching the point in this post where the "wild and woolly" posts start arriving.

Reporting that automatic bilge pumps MUST be removed adds nothing to the discussion. There is no point in jumping on every unsubstaniated comment that someone might make at this point - I imagine that this is the type of comment that might well be advanced during a group discussion when speculating on how far this law could be pushed but that doesn't make it true or probable.

Nor is there any point if threatening to move your yacht/leave/or not visit Turkey unless this law is changed as that will do nothing to improve the situation. It might make the poster feel better but if you think about it what are you really accomplishing? Biting of your nose off to spite your face!!! Will the local economy really collapse if deprived of the few thousand euros you might spend annually. Of course, if one could organize the exodus of a few thousand it would be different.

The point behind the law is valid and where possible we should try to comply while trying to get the law written in such a way that this is possible.

Personally I hold out hope that this will be sorted out soon now that it has reached the attention of the authorities and marina managers. I remain convinced that this was all started by a few "zealots" in the Fethiye area when they discovered that a large houseboat (two levels) had been moored in a bay for a couple of years. I am sure that this discovery must have really got up their nose especially as it was owned by a wealthy person from Istanbul. Imagine their sense of triumph once they had forced it to move and I can see how easy it would be to decide to expand their area of interest to all of Mugla province. Of course, if they kept this within a limited circle they would not meet any resistance which might deprive them of their new found sense of power as no one can argue against motherhood or apple pie.

However this is now out in the public domain and resistance is being raised and I am optimistic that reason will prevail in the end.

As reported earlier this subject has moved to a much higher level with meetings arranged between various authorities and I will wait the outcome before jumping to conclusions.

Cheers

Squeaky

P.S - read about the seahorses to understand what motivates some people - http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219617

Squeaky, We are not threatening to move unless the law is changed, that attitude wont work here. We live in an apartment we own here and have on and off for the last 6 years its a great place to live. We just wont be bringing our boat here - ITS TOO HARD!

You/we/I wont threaten Turks, they don’t care if their laws cripple their economy as a rule they don’t think that far ahead, that is not on their agenda.

What you must also consider is that the political power base for the Turkish equivalent of the BNP IS in this area and its the ruling party in Mugla in short they don’t like anything that’s not Turkish. A few zealots is wrong; it’s the whole administration.

What they have done to a few land based brits here would fill a book, (the trouble starts when business is involved) the message is clear don’t mess with them, play/work somewhere else - we choose to live here and work and play somewhere else thanks. They make up the most complex rules to make it hard for expats obviously we abide by them but something’s are just too hard, boats is now one of them.

So far NOTHING I HAVE REPORTED IS UNSUBSTANTIATED to it comes straight from the operators of marinas here Fethiye and Cocek and was accurate as of yesterday.


Where are you? perhaps we can meet up for a beer.

 

[sailaboutvic]

Are you saying this is 4-5 year old imformation. **** what we want is up to date info not history !!!

I place the info on here because it has been said that no one as ever been fined which isnt the case .

sorry if it missled anyone to think it was upto info

 

[Marsupial]

Reporting that automatic bilge pumps MUST be removed adds nothing to the discussion. There is no point in jumping on every unsubstaniated comment that someone might make at this point - I imagine that this is the type of comment that might well be advanced during a group discussion when speculating on how far this law could be pushed but that doesn't make it true or probable.

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Removal of automatic bilge pumps is NOW a condition of berthing in club marina as of yesterday

 

[1bobt]

I place the info on here because it has been said that no one as ever been fined which isnt the case .

sorry if it missled anyone to think it was upto info

No problem.

Its that I was planing to go back to Turkey and livaboard for the next couple of years .I think I will remain in Greece until this thing sorted, or I can find a way of complying with their rules ?

In the past when there it was mostly the Gulets that caused the pollution

cheers bobt

 

[sailaboutvic]

bob

I only returned back from Greece last year after 6 years based in Kos marina , it a real shame this is going on my plain for 2010 was to return to the Med and head for Turkey , maybe I sit it out in greece again

Ps

I have sent a email to a marina in Turkey I will let you all know what it says if I get a reply .

 

[Squeaky]

Good morning Marsupial

I assume Club Marina is in the area of Fethiye as they seem to be really going overboard on this subject. Wonder if the owner/manager is one of the backers/avid supporters of the latest law!!!

I am sorry that you seem to have had so many bad experiences giving you such a negative view of Turkey and the Turkish people but think you are going a bit over the top to compare the government with the BNP.

Have sent you a personal message.

Cheers

Squeaky