HMS Victory

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I read in November's MBY that there is a proposal for the country to give her away to a charity because of the expense of her upkeep.

I think this is a disgrace. If, as a nation, we can't look after what is perhaps the single most important piece of our naval heritage then we might as well give up entirely.
 
Currently HMS Victory is a commissioned ship of the fleet, so the MOD is responsible for it, hence the costs come out of the defence budget.

It's about time this responsibility was absorbed into the same supporting fund that maintains all our national monuments!
 
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It's about time this responsibility was absorbed into the same supporting fund that maintains all our national monuments!

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Why? It would no longer be a commissioned ship with a RN captain in command. The is why she is unique.
 
Good. On the same page of the magazine, Chichester was identified as being in Hampshire, which was a bit of a surprise to me.
 
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It's about time this responsibility was absorbed into the same supporting fund that maintains all our national monuments!

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Why? It would no longer be a commissioned ship with a RN captain in command. The is why she is unique.

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I don't think that a warship needs to be "owned" by the MoD for it to be commissioned - IIRC, the 5 trawlers "taken up from trade" as minesweepers during the Falkland conflict were all commissioned, commanded by RN Officers and flew the white ensign, but remained the property of their respective companies.
 
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I don't think that a warship needs to be "owned" by the MoD for it to be commissioned

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For example: HMS Diamond Rock
 
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It's about time this responsibility was absorbed into the same supporting fund that maintains all our national monuments!

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Why? It would no longer be a commissioned ship with a RN captain in command. The is why she is unique.

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I don't think that a warship needs to be "owned" by the MoD for it to be commissioned - IIRC, the 5 trawlers "taken up from trade" as minesweepers during the Falkland conflict were all commissioned, commanded by RN Officers and flew the white ensign, but remained the property of their respective companies.

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Which means that the MOD is still responsible for maintenance, so I can't see the benefit.

Mind you, as a green job, I have no idea why I am arguing the case, but it does seem to be just another chip off the cornerstone of tradition.
 
Has anyone calculated what percentage of the 1805 ship is left?

God knows how many refits it had between 1805 and 1922 when it first went into dry dock. It's certainly had serious structural work since then.

Trigger's broom?
 
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I think she should come back to Chatham where she was built.

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I thought that most of her was still in Chatham.
 
I think they should just scrap the piece of junk, what do we need it for, burn the bloody thing, useless piece of rubbish. Sell it to some yank for disneyworld or hollywood!
 
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It's about time this responsibility was absorbed into the same supporting fund that maintains all our national monuments!

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Why? It would no longer be a commissioned ship with a RN captain in command. The is why she is unique.

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The chap in command is called the Captain but he most certainly isn't a Captain (4 rings). At best he will be a Lieutenant Commander or maybe a Lieutenant. Also he may be a she! The ship is the Flagship for the Second Sea Lord.

Went to a very pleasant cocktail party there a few weeks ago! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Well the RN rubbished that story some weeks ago

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can you give a link or something to show that .... not being smart but all reports in papers online etc. I read - MOD said they were looking at various options for her future incl. passing her over to private charity / trust but require she be maintained fully as present, still commissioned. I haven't seen anything to the contrary yet ... very interested if any development.

I regard Victory as a fine Example of our History and would be very sad to see her go.

Interested to know comparisons of Warrior visitors compared to Victory ? Would not surprise me if Victory was top of the bill !
 
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It's about time this responsibility was absorbed into the same supporting fund that maintains all our national monuments!

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Why? It would no longer be a commissioned ship with a RN captain in command. The is why she is unique.

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The chap in command is called the Captain but he most certainly isn't a Captain (4 rings). At best he will be a Lieutenant Commander or maybe a Lieutenant. Also he may be a she! The ship is the Flagship for the Second Sea Lord.

Went to a very pleasant cocktail party there a few weeks ago! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Jammy!

Actually, it is Lieutenant Commander Douglas 'Oscar' Whild.
 
Over the years I have dined aboard Victory, got ratted in the Chief's Mess (and seriously ratted at that, 2 day hangover) and got married and had the reception on board Warrior. Both are superb places but you do notice that Victory is still in commission. Warrior has her own brand of champagne:-)

For those who may not have visited Victory since 2005 there is quite a lot more open for the casual visitor than there used to be, the holds and magazines are now accessible as part of the normal tour rather than the specials of yesteryear.
 
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