Help, I want to go RTW

[2_rollocks]

I see Mr Priddy again appears in yet another mag spouting on about his RTW trip, presumably he must almost be at the testing phase as the trip is planned for next year. Wonder who has been stupid enuf to contribute towards the £10+ million costs involved, suspect backers are a bit thin on the ground, specially as S######n will be no good to him.

So has anyone received a request for sponsorship? Wonder how he'd word it, praps something like

Dear Mr Richman

You may have heard of my illfated and very unlucky jaunt last year, anyway I want to do the same again next year, only this time just a bit faster, (couldn't really be much slower), we may even manage to go almost as fast as a sailing boat, and we need a bit more dosh than last time, to be precise about £10 million more. Praps you have a few spare quid I could use and mebbe about 5 million friends in the same position.

You have probably heard that some fairly well known car firms are developing hydrogen cells, and have been for many years, well I think I can crack it within 12 months. What experience do I have you may ask. Well that would be a fair question, and the answer is sod all, but I am an optomist. And our attempt last year only took about 4 times longer than planned, oh, so you heard we didn't actually finish, well we almost did, we only had the Atlantic to go, such a small sea!

This time it will all be different, we won't have to stop for fuel, all fish farms will be towed upriver for the duration of our attempt, we promise not to sleep on the job and it is possible we may encounter a few waves (that was a bit of a surprise last time around, but you live and learn!)

Please indicate where you would like your logo to be placed, either on the wheelhouse or below the waterline. For some reason our professional adviser, Fred the local hygiene consultant, has advised us to charge a premium for below waterline advertising. Awaiting a swift response so we can start the in bath testing before the year end,

Regards,

YoucancallmeAl

 

[petem]

Bit cynical for your twelth post! Fair points though.

 

[longjohnsilver]

Yes I saw the same article sometime last Autumn, doesn't seem to have made much progress.

 

[DepSol]

Hmmm let see wonder how you would word your letter shall we. Lets just put the shoe on the other foot.

Dear Sir

I am scrounging for money in order to attempt to go Round the World and show Mr Priddy that it is so easy I am going to do it with no effort or preparation. I was wondering if you could load me up with dosh for my own gratification. I would put my real name butI prefer to hide my identity so that no one will find out what a real coward I am as I am never going to get past this stage let alone approach any real sponsors because I can talk the talk but not walk the walk.

I am writing this letter today as the weather has turned a bit nasty its a force 4 out there and I am afraid I might not be able to handle my gin palace as I have never taken it out of the marina and daddy says we can go to the ferrari dealer instead.

I have never really acheived anything in my life and find it much easier to have a pop at people that have at least had the guts and determination to get up and attempt to acheive their dreams. I dont know how I am going to set a new record for under 50ft RTW as my boat is 105ft S########R and daddy says I can have the skipper for 3 months on my little jaunt. This means I can sit on the sun deck getting my tan but I want you to pay for my fuel.

On board I will have a cook servants experienced customs officer someone to wipe my back side and five other people to organise the whole thing whilst I get my manicure.

My boyfreind Ramone will also acompany me as I could not be with out him for 3 months, he does my hair you know.

If you need to contact me please dont as I have hidden my identity and my shrink says it is not good for me to talk to anyone who may take me seriously.

Thanks but no thanks

Mr under acheiver.

Not very nice is it having a pop at someone for what someone has written about them. Just because he didnt succeed at RTW doesnt mean he hasnt already got a string of world records to his name. He my have lost the war but he has won many battles in between.





Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[Guest]

Interesting thinking, but I do not like people who have a personal go at others, including your comments, and Depsol's comments about you on Ribnet, however I have been suspended from Ribnet for making comments. Nobody on Ribnet knows why I have been suspended, as the question was asked on the Forum. Anyway I guess I will be here now, and seeing I bought a powerboat after my Rib sale fell through perhaps it is the better place. I have put below a copy of Depsol's post, the comment made by AP on Ribnet in th ethread 'Ribbing', this was to a new member. I explain my views on it in my reply which is shown beneath that.
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Depsol latest post on Ribnet :-
One more ahole in this world
Just come off Mobo Chat to see another idiot having a pop at Alan P, and get this he is a student, duh. Had to bite as idiots like this annoy me. Any one who logs on to ybw forum can join me in telling this loser what a gutless buttwad he is
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AP (reply on Ribnet) :-
Something is not right here!!! 6 hours from the Hamble to Jersey in a 35ft high speed power boat with twin 8.2 mercruisers and in conditions that are good!!

Thats only an average of 20 knots and you say you often go there and back for a day, come on, come clean what are you really about?

As for your comments about RIB's not being very sea friendly in tough conditions you obviously do not understand much about boats at all. If you think that a rib would not be any good in rough seas best you have a look at my book "Beating the big One" or Clive Tully's book "Confronting Posidon" And before you have a go at me, Yes I have got the t-shirt and I have worn it out! Alan P


My Reply :-
I think that as I said before everyone is different and enjoy different things, that is called choice. Personally I don't want to camp out at night, that's my choice. I have nothing to prove either to myself or others, I have risen above trying to prove I am better than others. I have been through real life experiences that most people will never experience or know about. I have done that for a living and have been there, seen it, done it and 'worn out the T-shirt' as Alan P put it. I am also aware that there are others out there still doing the job I did and perhaps more knowledgeable than me.

What I have found is that when you reach a certain level you can become bitter and grumpy, there are no more challenges in life and everyone else as far as you are concerned knows very little, and are just dirt e.g. how dare they question you, you know everything (that kind of thing). This is a dangerous position to be in, you can become unpopular and unhappy with your life I know, I have experienced that, and I am correcting my ways. I must say that since I have faced up to myself, I have become a nicer person; I enjoy using my experiences to help and encourage others

You do notice however that some people try to portray a front to cover for other inadequacies, or what they feel is an inadequacy, whether it be height, weight, lack of a degree e.t.c. If these people were all they were meant to be, then they would be solid as a rock, confident and mentors to the less proficient. I am lucky that I can see right through these people with my life experiences, they do not frighten me one bit, I know who I am. I guess the confidence I have, comes from really knowing how little of life they really know. Some people can become so transfixed with a project or a particular cause that they don't care less about anything or anybody else, best let them get on with their sad lonely false lives. The time will come for these people one day when they are exposed as shallow, they will then feel lonely and angry, and realise in the whole aspect of the globe and what else is going on, they are nothing and have nothing. People like this use others for their own ends, when that dries up they realise they are nothing, it's too late then!

Dirk, you have made some points and have every right to make them. You will find that you will get different opinions on here, I am pretty new myself, there is some banter, which is healthy and fun. You will work out what is what and who is who, but there are enough good people here to help with most things. The confident real people IMHO will be helpful, discuss things, offer advice and be there when the 'wheel comes off', and you need help.

People fought for us to be free, enjoy it, and help others less able to enjoy it.

 

[quietlife]

Here here Flanker, well said!

 

[tcm]

Re: oh lawks

Hi Grumpy1. I wd change that handle perhaps. In other words, i'm disagreeing with what you personally decided. If I didn't disagree, then it would be a bit boring would it not? A bit like your long post.

2rollocks makes a valid point: AP either underestimated or simply underachieved the loot requirements last time - which would have funded local agents and so on. Some put his fishfarm probs down to bad luck, others don't, but whatever - he certainly didn't have too much good luck at all, especially weatherwise. Put your head above the paprapet in print orin person and you invite praise and/or potshots, but what the hell, I bet AP can take it - going rtw is far harder.

Unsure about Depsols totally uncritical eye. Same on ribnet - nobody can criticise or advise the great AP. This ain't healthy, imho.

I wd like to know more about this fuel cell. But it wd surely be much cheaper to have easy technolgy, a larger rib, bigger tanks and more money, say £200k more than what they had last time would have elminated the woprries, smoothed the way, paid for a restart, more spares, more bribes and better weather advice.

£10m is monster leap, and a load of loot sponsorshipwise, unrealistic without a demonstrable similar success story. So far, for a soponsor, the AP records are a little qualified by if you count this then , and not that, and under 50 foot on a route nobody else has done, and so on. The Ellen stuff is RTW, no messing. And a load lessthan a third of £10m.

 

[AJW]

Re: oh lawks

"Unsure about Depsols totally uncritical eye. Same on ribnet - nobody can criticise or advise the great AP. This ain't healthy, imho. "

Yes thats true AP is a god that has come down from the hypalon halls of valhalla to walk amongst us mere mortals. We dare not criticise him for he is wise and knowledgable and has been there and worn the drysuit.

Rather like some bloke called TCM on this forum..............................

 

[grinch]

I note from your profile, Rollocks, that you are a student. What are you studying. "Bitter and twisted" perhaps. I think you'll get your degree. What have you ever done to put yourself in a position to criticise someone who had a "go". And before you have a pop back from the comfort of your armchair, AP is not one of my gods. All my heroes come from a place called humdrum. Your post is mean spirited to say the least.

Grinch

 

[pistonbroke]

I can't see what the problem is having the odd stab at the truly wonderful Mr Priddy. All this Hero Worshipping does tend to get on ones nerves. Why do the fans of AP always ask what his critics have done. Do you need to be his equal to criticise him.

As for Rollocks being bitter and twisted, you really need to take alook at some of Mr Priddys postings. He appears to be terribly envious of Bear Grylls. Lots of snide remarks.

Now I don't claim to know Bear, but I do know about some of his past achievements. In the words of the great AP, That man really has worn the tee shirt.

As for Depsols post, I can only assume he has been at the Soltron again.

 

[quietlife]

Well i've had the privalige of meeting mr G shortly after his success with Everest,
I would think every moment on that mountain would be more more like hell than AP could even begin to imagine! A little different to sitting in a cabin reading a book, bored shitless! (at an amazing 17 Knt average, WOW) The one thing that strikes you with bear grylle's is the lack of pretence, you wont hear him or any of his team(or any true explorer/expoditionist) blowing thier own trumpet so loud that your ears hurt, and constantly refering to his collection of worn out tee-shirts! I'm sure plenty of folk agree with rollocks, and are well sick of hearing from superstar AP

 

[grinch]

Get yer specs on and read the post properly, Pistonbroke. I've already said AP isn't one of my Gods but if I'd got a problem with him, I'd say it to his face, not in mindless drivel on a forum. And yes, you do need to be qualified to criticize or it's worthless. Bear Grylls and his team will probably suffer the same fate, whether they succeed or not, from people like you who don't have a problem in having the odd stab as long as it's in the back. Whilst I too dislike hero worship, I do have a sneaking respect for those who try something a little out of the ordinary, even if they fail.

Grinch

 

[tcm]

Re: oh lawks

ooh, not so, ajw. Fact is, I take the mick out of self as well as others. Whereas did AP say "oh shit I have f'd up by doing x y or z"? Not that I hear. He's never cocked up, as far as I have heard. Ever. Running out of money was due to the grasping customs wallahs, not him for setting off underfunded. Heat exhaustion was due to unseasonably hot weather, not him for designing the pilothouse for northern (skyward facing windows) latitudes that were smashed in Biscay on the way to the startline with no spares. The fishfarm was someone elses fault, the weather extreme bad luck, the time lost due to waiting for spares certainly not his fault for not having the spares, and so on. Hey- I still agree that he's a good guy. But the post concerned the feasibility of his adventures for sponsorship. I do have the wherewithal to sponsor, but would limit exposure to about £50 on his record. Don't get sarcastic or take it personally - he's the one who is laying down the gauntlet, gunning for records, wanting sponsorship, not me. There's comptetion and hence naysayers in all walks of competitive or commercial life. Get used to it. When he wins a record that has already been held and challenged by others over a period of years, I'll applaud long and loud. So, I respect the effort, but I note the failure. If he accepts any part of the failure, I've yet to hear about it. Fact is that he exposed his crew to pointless danger long after the record had disappeared. Time to concede defeat? Not until somebody almost dies, it seems. He's lucky not to have a crew death on his hands, imho. Would his record have been of any note? I'm afraid I heard not a dicky bird in any newspaper, radio station or anything.

 

[tcm]

Hear hear. I have respect for the effort too. But, I note the failure, and the fact that many said that the APrtw attempt seemed underfunded, and so it was. Which spose makes the effort required all the more remarkable. Or, badly considered, depending on viewpoint.

 

[tcm]

You can do better than that!

er, but doesn't the same apply to you, depsol? Or anyone who hasn't attempted rtw in a RIB? Your approach discounts the idea of giving advice from anything other than a postion of "been there done that". How does that square with pro tennis players or other sportspeople, including world champions, who have a coach, another coach, a trainer, advisory team, and so on? They don't explode at them in a barrage of "well, I'm better than you!"

So far none of the believers seem to be able to answer AP queries WITHOUT flinging it back into the face of the questioner along the lines of "think you can do any better, punk/wimp??" That fine - but condemns all Priddy's attempts to the status of plucky gogetting amateur, not serious professional.

The subtext of the intital thread is "What is the case for sponsorship to the tune of £10million?". Somewhere, somehow, the case has to be strung together in a coherent way, without ridiculing the questuioner.

A potential sponsor will ask the same questions, and far more searchingly.


Note: £10 million quid would catapult any brand to the top of the tree. It's a blimmn massive amount of marketing money. A bit of telly or coverage in MBY "if it works" is no good.

 

[oldgit]

Re Can we all join in or is this private.N

Nm

Oooh look its still not dark and its nearly 5pm

 

[2_rollocks]

Dear Depsol, you can't put the shoe on the other foot, it won't fit!

The point of my post is that I'm gettig fed up of reading how Mr P plans to set off on another trip when I suspect he aint done his homework.

I'd love to do what he's talking about but suspect that obtaining £10million sponsorship would be a bit of a problem. Also how's he planning on getting this new technology to work when huge motor companies have not yet perfected his proposed propulsion fuel.

Until he shows his hand and the model he must have built by now I'll reserve the right to call this pie in the sky, the same as if I wanted to do it. Let's have some hard facts, not just meaningless talk.

 

[DepSol]

Ahhh the model yes WELL COOL, you should see it. Lovely design cant wait to see the built version.

Wot do you mean you havent seen it? ah well you will just have to wait and see.

As for my reply to you it was done with the same style as yours, I dont know you and dont pretend to think I know what your about apart from using the internet to hide your identity.

If you had the facts straight then maybe I wouldnt have written a load of tosh about you (at least Idont think his name is Ramone) just the same way as you have written about Alan.

Dont judge others if you dont like it yourself. As for Matt this is his favorite subject but at least he is not hiding behind the net.

Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[Guest]

I am so sorry for stirring things up, I didn't mean it that way. I also did not want to get a bad name for one of my 'firstish' posts on YBW. I apologise for the copy of the rambling post, but I did think that it was relevant.

There seems to be a backlash on the ribnet forum, under the thread 'one more ahole in this world', I seem to have upset some of the members there, but still nobody can tell me why I was suspended, except one person states 'he does not care'.

I have however met some great people from that site who are good friends now, it is a shame that there are such narrow minded and blinkered people in the world who bitch and moan at anyone. I have never had a personal go at anyone (yet), but do accept that it happens and do have a laugh occassionaly at responses.

I for one am an independant person who does not need to feel in a 'gang', I can handle myself and will say what I think. There are a few who for some reason have to cling to others for support, maybe that is not a bad thing, but it is not me.

Anyway Mr P states on his latest post :-

"Perhaps someone should mention that I am not the sort of person who gives a toss about anything he might have to say"

I leave people to make up their own mind about that comment.

In general communication is a great skill, perhaps analysing the reasons for comments from some people about you may lead you to understand where problems may lie in your perception by others, you may need to take time to assess what has gone wrong. By ignoring it and throwing up the 'I have done everything, I am the best shield' is just pure arrogance and will do nothing but harm to your credibility. I have nothing to prove to anyone and after having gone through my own de-briefing system, do feel so sorry for others still trapped in that unhappy world.

I want to confirm that I do respect people who take on challenges, I wish them all the best, but my respect falls to the unsung heroes of the special forces who have done and are still doing things that will never be known publicly, they survive in the worst & dangerous conditions, without sponsership, under the threat of enemy fire. This makes what some member of both forums perceive as remarkable achievements (and no taking it away, in some cases they are), a bit of a 'picnic in the park'.

THAT is why people who achieve what THEY consider to be great things, have to be humbled by others that have done far greater things that will never be known, and trust me they have.

Sorry for rambling on, but that is 'my view' and the end of this discussion for me.

 

[2_rollocks]

You still haven't sed how this chap intends to raise £10 million or how he intends to use this new technology. Also if he has a model why doesn't he show it.

Still seems like a lot of hot air to me.

Suppose you have his poster up on your bedroom wall, he seems to be a real hero to you. Why?