Help - How do I stop a seagull ??

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It seems that the correct method is, as has been said, to have the throttle lever set so that it stops the ngine when fully closed and lifted up (the lever that is, this taking all tension out of the inner cable) according to the SOS web site some people move the throttle lever assembly along the handle to be nearer the grip which is wrong as the cable is not long enough and this causes problems (kinked cables).

Mine works like that, however I prefer it as an adornment on the garage wall.
 

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Tie a rope onto it and chuck it in the sea!

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I bet it would work better than a modern roll-bar anchor too! Much less chance of dragging I am sure..
 

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Tie a rope onto it and chuck it in the sea!

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Once took one that had been in the sea for 3 months stripped it down dried out the coils cleaned the points etc., reassembled it and it ran second pull of the cord.

Seagulls will be about when some of the modern crap are bean cans.
 

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Tie a rope onto it and chuck it in the sea!

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Once took one that had been in the sea for 3 months stripped it down dried out the coils cleaned the points etc., reassembled it and it ran second pull of the cord.

Seagulls will be about when some of the modern crap are bean cans.

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shame they never start that well if you don't give them a dunking first!
 

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Sorry when SG's were designed ........ 100 yards !!

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Shouldn't that be chains, rods or furlongs or something /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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Best way is not to start it in the beginning, or if you do manage to start it, then take it off and chuck it over the side. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
No all joking aside, they are a great little mill.
I repaired one for a friend, a couple years ago, and was able to start it by just swiping the flywheel around by hand, and not having to use starter cable.
 

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close the throttle, close the choke and put your thumb over the air intake..........much easier than trying to use the flat of your hand........i wouldn't mess with the electrics or try stopping the flywheel. I run a seagull and it's dead easy to stop as I've described, although closing off the fuel and just getting to where you want to go is even better still, but takes practice!
 

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I used to have an old Briggs and Stratton roto-tiller that had a little metal lever that was attached to the cylinder head near the plug - to stop the engine, the lever was flipped over to contact the plug connector thus grounding it and killing the engine. I suppose you could rig up something similar by running a suitable wire from the magneto to ground through a toggle switch.
 
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There's plenty of sound ideas here and all work ... but I can't help thinking that the "Turn of Fuel Tap" one is best .... for normal use - that way yyou don't have a carb to clog up with oil when gasoline evaps off ... carb doesn't drain into boot of car when laid down etc. etc.
 

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I always use the "turn fuel tap off" method. I have to tip up the engine to drag the boat up the beach (or better still, take it off as it's heavy!). But WHY did they design it with the fuel tap behind and underneath the fuel tank. You can't see it so have to do it by touch (risking grabbing the spark plug instead - ouch!).
 

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But WHY did they design it with the fuel tap behind and underneath the fuel tank

[/ QUOTE ] Because it would not work with it on top of the fuel tank!

FWIW I have the throttle cable on mine adjusted so that it will just, but only just, keep running while the tiller is horizontal but stop if the tiller is lowered. However when coming back on to the slipway I do shut the fuel off (and close the vent screw) while still a hundred metres or so away so that most of the fuel is used rather than being tipped into the back of the dinghy or the car boot.

It would not be impossible to fit a stop button to a Seagull if you really wanted to. It could be mounted through the flywheel/magneto base plate or remotely on the tiller.
 

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The problem we had was that the bl**dy thing would speed up the revs just before death - if you didn't know about it, it could catch you out right alongside.

Peter.
 

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the bl**dy thing would speed up the revs just before death

[/ QUOTE ] They do tend to do that but I wonder if weakening the mixture (fuel/ air) slightly would prevent or at least reduce it.
 

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1/ Duh... I know the fuel tap needs to be below the tank, but why BEHIND?

2/ I expect the engine speed-up on the last gasp is due to the mixture leaning out, so further weakening will not help. If I recall, most engines normally run a little on the ritch side to avoid "pinking". Lean off slightly gives an increase in HP, lean off too much and it starts to run rough (lean off more and it stops!). Light aircraft pilots will be familiar with leaning the mixture until it starts to sound rough (or RPM drops) then enriching a touch for optimum power/fuel efficiency.
 
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