Help by experienced sailors wanted in moving my boat by sea

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My Boat is about to be moved from her current home on the East Coast (Humber), right around the country to Watchet In Somerset. I could just move her by road (and to be honest thats the easiest way) but I fancy taking the time to sail her round and enjoy the trip however.....I am qualified to Day Skipper standard and want somebody with more experience just to be there "just in case". I have had a few quotes from "professional" skippers at £200 a day but they will drive her hard through the night and besides its cheaper to take it by road at £1000.....does anyone fancy coming with me on the trip for say a set fee of say £500 for the whole trip? I want to use the trip to gain more experience. I want to do this trip in the next couple of weeks. Drop me a private message if suitably qualified and interested.
 
If anyone takes payment then they must be a professional skipper, qualified, and commercially endorsed to stay on the right side of the law, and will charge £200 per day.

if suitably qualified
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You appear to be wanting someone to provide you with a professional service but are unwilling to pay for it.
 
prv said:
That link doesn't appear to support your point, although it doesn't specifically contradict it. Is there a particular bit you're referring to?
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A commercial endorsement is required for work on board British flagged vessels subject to the MCA's codes of practice for small commerical (sic) vessels.


We discussed this at length quite recently, when someone made the mistaken assertion that qualifications were required to provided own-boat tuition. With a few obvious exceptions (gas fitting, school teaching, cosmetic surgery ...) you can pay anyone to do anything on your private, non-commercial leisure vessel. You can certainly pay an unqualified person to skipper, crew, navigate or teach you any of these things.
 
AngusMcDoon said:
If anyone takes payment then they must be a professional skipper, qualified, and commercially endorsed to stay on the right side of the law, and will charge £200 per day.



You appear to be wanting someone to provide you with a professional service but are unwilling to pay for it.
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In short you partially are right Mcdoon. The economics dictate that I can move it by road for £1000 why should i pay more to move it under its own power? However I am NOT looking for a professional service as such, I'm searching for someone who loves the challange of sailing. If i choose to gift a gift then thats my concern
 
Though informal arrangements work all the time, a good test I use with my students (youth & community) is to ask in response to hypothetical questions is 'Who was in overall charge?' 'Who attends the inquest?' 'Is my insurance aware and compliant?'

What will s/he do if you fall out/lose faith in your voluntary skipper/second mate and decline to gift the gift?

(Early morning post- listening to f7/8, rafted up at HW in Eyemouth )
 
NickRobinson said:
Though informal arrangements work all the time, a good test I use with my students (youth & community) is to ask in response to hypothetical questions is 'Who was in overall charge?' 'Who attends the inquest?' 'Is my insurance aware and compliant?'

What will s/he do if you fall out/lose faith in your voluntary skipper/second mate and decline to gift the gift?

(Early morning post- listening to f7/8, rafted up at HW in Eyemouth )
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funny trying to watch the professional skippers trying to make a meal out of this..... dead easy...I'm in charge, my boat, I call the shots, im fully insured....anyone that is interested in coming along for the ride would have to trust me if i decline to give my gift as that is the nature of the beast but most DECENT people generally get a feeling for whats right and wrong. I must say that on that subject the professional world (as opposed to those that do it for sport/leisure) of yachting/boating/fishing world I have found is full of neer do wells and chancers (ive met my fair share i must say, that have tried to rip my back teeth out)....although theres good and bad in all i suppose.....anyways Ive already had a good response so there are some nice friendly people out there who have a vast knowledge and experience that dont necessarily want to bleed you dry.
 
Qualifications arent the b all and end all...i know some sailors that havent got a qualification to their name but have tens of 1000's of nautical miles experience. Equally i know some that paid for a 6 month commercial skippers course that i wouldnt trust to take a pedalo round peasholme park in scarborough
 
Come on chaps - it's just someone trying to get some crew for a delivery trip. Delivery companies do it occasionally. Let's not make such a (apocryphal) meal of it.
I'd query if PBO is the right place to ask such a question and with the sketchy information provided would be unlikely to look at it any farther.
Probably realises that a professional delivery skipper might decline the contract.
 
Agree with that Charles. There's always some on here that will see only the negative side when the OP is just seeking experienced help.
charles_reed said:
Come on chaps - it's just someone trying to get some crew for a delivery trip. Delivery companies do it occasionally. Let's not make such a (apocryphal) meal of it.
I'd query if PBO is the right place to ask such a question and with the sketchy information provided would be unlikely to look at it any farther.
Probably realises that a professional delivery skipper might decline the contract.
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Ask your local yacht club.. There might be locals without yachts looking to go for a sail. But if youre paying for return flights etc maybe the 1000 pounds road option is the best.
Id pay the grand. or just go myself for free. Hug the coast and pick the weather.. You got to learn sometime on your own..
 
It sounds like you don't want to drive her hard through the nights, so why not just break it into a series of day sails? You could then invite sailors local to each leg to hop on board for an enjoyable day sail, thereby gaining from their local knowledge, which will almost certainly be more comprehensive than that of a skipper less local. If you then chose to buy them dinner and a train ticket home afterwards I'm sure everyone would be happy.
 
nauticalnomad said:
Ask your local yacht club.. There might be locals without yachts looking to go for a sail. But if youre paying for return flights etc maybe the 1000 pounds road option is the best.
Id pay the grand. or just go myself for free. Hug the coast and pick the weather.. You got to learn sometime on your own..
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enjoy by taking your time, the bit across the thames is the only section to perhaps take more care. I single handed from salcome to wells the other year. The only big scary monster waiting to grab you is lack of sleep
 
Im amazed how a simple request for help can be turned into a debate as to whether the OP is right, wrong or tight concerning the move of his boat, unreal, all they want to do is get it from A to B three men in a boat style, how many of you on here are happy to pay your local main dealer for a full service or to fix whatever on your boat or engine ?? or is it more likely you will ask your cronies down the local yacht or boating club about how to do this or that, or simply post a question in a forum to find out how to do it, or get a mate round cos they can do it cheaper !!

How many questions are posted every day on this forum asking for information on how to fix whatever so the OP's can save a bit of cash ??

Isnt that what the OP of this thread is doing ??

After all it seems that most members on PBO seeking advice on how to fix or how to do whatever want a professional service, but dont want to pay for it, am I right or am I wrong.
 
Also have sympathy for the o/p and think some have treated him harshly and have seen a dark side when there is none.

He could have asked for anyone to come just for the experience but is being generous by offering a generous dollop of expenses.
 
redkat said:
Qualifications arent the b all and end all...i know some sailors that havent got a qualification to their name but have tens of 1000's of nautical miles experience. Equally i know some that paid for a 6 month commercial skippers course that i wouldnt trust to take a pedalo round peasholme park in scarborough
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I fully agree with that.The chap i sail with is a superb sailer,not a qualification to his name.He was asked, when in the navy to stay on to teach,but did not want to sighn on again,
 
SAPurdie said:
It sounds like you don't want to drive her hard through the nights, so why not just break it into a series of day sails? You could then invite sailors local to each leg to hop on board for an enjoyable day sail, thereby gaining from their local knowledge, which will almost certainly be more comprehensive than that of a skipper less local. If you then chose to buy them dinner and a train ticket home afterwards I'm sure everyone would be happy.
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+1 The first couple of legs down to Ramsgate, and the last, beyond Falmouth seem to be the most demanding, where experienced crew would be useful. In between, take Uncle Tom (Cunliffe's) Channel Pilot and charts with you and with a Day Skipper's experience I imagine* you could do the rest single handed if necessary, if you have the time to take your time and stay indoors when the weather is not playing ball.

*I say I imagine because although I've been sailing for forty two years and own a 31' MAB which I singled handed from the Netherlands to the Solent in a series of day sails I've never got around to doing the the training. I did leave the boat holed up in Dover for a couple of weeks when bad weather halted my progress westwards and then work intervened.
 
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