potentillaCO32
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I'm not sure the OP will see this he hasn't looked at the forum since last thursday and has only posted twice.
Help & Advise Zero Budget Liveaboard Essex
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Tranona
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Not sure a caravan will have space to keep his Ohlson 38 though
potentillaCO32
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Put wheels on the ohlson?
Plum
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We would be able to provide better help if we knew how you intend to use your boat. For example, do you just want to moor it and never go sailing or do you want to moor it and be able to go sailing whenever you wish?
jezjez
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Surely, this is possible! I often dream of doing the same. As long as you put yourself right up the far end of a river when the wind is 80 knots and keep the engine running and pray when it is, and you stock up on beans, cheese and water, with a kindle and a dream, a believer can do anything if they want it enough.
The biggest question mark in my mind is, if you’ve never even sailed a yacht, how do you know this will make your life better and not worse? I think you should spend a few weeks of the summer on board and see if you really want this life after all. It’s not for everyone. In fact, some people hate it more than seems justified by the privations and constant moving about that are inherent. Not to mention bashing yourself on the sticky out bits of the boat.
The biggest question mark in my mind is, if you’ve never even sailed a yacht, how do you know this will make your life better and not worse? I think you should spend a few weeks of the summer on board and see if you really want this life after all. It’s not for everyone. In fact, some people hate it more than seems justified by the privations and constant moving about that are inherent. Not to mention bashing yourself on the sticky out bits of the boat.
potentillaCO32
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I agree with your second point around not knowing if you would like any of this but the surely, the "this is possible bit" I think is no. Given the number of 'van life' people parked on the side of the road near me, if it were possible to anchor up a uk river and not pay anybody anything
, the rivers would be full.
The winter we have had shows how utterly,utterly miserable , damp, mouldy and unhealthy doing so would be. Sitting in the rain looking out through cracked prespex windows, the odd drip landing on your damp bed, the nearest shops an hours row against wind, chop and tide across a freezing river. Just not doable.
There are plenty of liveabords at the marina I use on the crouch but they are plugged in to electricity, heating and water. Most are on dutch barges that never go anywhere and cosier than a cosy thing with wood fires and trendy shabby chique decor.. Hugely different proposition.
jezjez
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Perhaps that is why the sailing boats decide to head south and keep moving on.
5W33P3R
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The long term goal is to, over time, return to a normal Human existants. Think caveman (though with a few modern comforts). All the food I consume will be caught/found by my hand, and purifying water will be done myself. Hopfully, without stepping on too many toes, travel to anywhere I like the look of, and for protection and garanty of prolonged existants I have a number of both ranged and melee weaponry, that can be used to aid my hunting also. Current life isn't working for me, so talk of "will this make my life better or worse?" is irelavent. If I wish to remain alive and sane, this is a leep I must take.
Boathook
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Personally I think that you will struggle with that life style on the east and south coasts. To many people and all the land is 'owned' they do all they can to 'protect' it. If they see you with what looks like a gun the police will arrive. Fishing will be OK but collecting shell fish will require them to be 'cleansed' in tanks for a few days due to pollution.
Good luck with what ever you do and hopefully you will remain alive and sane.
potentillaCO32
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I'm not sure that would work on the east coast, or the uk. Fishermen on the Crouch on boats next to mine can go days without catching a fish. You would need fruit and veg as well to have a balanced diet so would have to buy that. You would need gas for the cooker. I'm not sure the farmers on land around the blackwater or crouch would take to kindly to you hopping off your boat and harvesting the local rabbits and montjuic deer for a snack either. The rib of the boys in blue based in burnham marina would soon be knocking on your door.
A yacht also, no matter how you do it, is not a low cost environment. Not for nothing do blue water cruisers joke that their life is "fixing boats in lovely places".
The uk climate make it pretty nearly not possible to live off grid year round on anchor. There might be 1 or 2 outliers but the uk rivers are not choc a bloc with anchored boats in winter. Just look at the weather today.....
I think the closest i have seen are people, and it is easier for non brits like me, who sail to warm climates and combine economical living with the odd part time job to keep the coffers from emptying.
To be honest most livabords are either older and have a few quid behind them or have skills to earn a few quid where ever they stop.
As other say, good luck though. You have a lovely boat in the ohlson.
Sandydog2
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It’s illegal to hunt by any method without the landowner’s permission. It’s also illegal to hunt with bows and crossbows anywhere. You won’t get a shotgun licence for a boat without a permanent mooring. So fish, shellfish and possibly rats, plus whatever plant material you can forage. It’s extremely difficult to get enough calories to live on. I can’t imagine why you think you are going to need weaponry to protect you.
Puffin10032
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Quite. Not only would he need to be happy to flout the law regarding bow hunting but he'd also have to super-human stalking and archery skills. Fortunately I think he'll lose all his arrows long before he manages to hit anything.
To be honest I can't decide whether he's genuine or a troll.
5W33P3R
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Mostly for when I enter international waters, especially in southern Caribbean/north African waters. However, that could all be many years from now.
dunedin
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Carrying weapons on board a yacht sailing internationally can get you into great difficulties - many countries having severe penalties if not declared on arrival and often requiring to pay to have the guns stowed ashore. Much safer, massively simpler and less expensive with zero weapons on board.
potentillaCO32
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One suggestion.
Learn a key boat building/repairing skill. Sail repairing, engine servicing, rigging, grp repair etc etc.
If you have one of those then finding cash work in blue water anchorages should be possible.
Learn a key boat building/repairing skill. Sail repairing, engine servicing, rigging, grp repair etc etc.
If you have one of those then finding cash work in blue water anchorages should be possible.
