Helmets for solo sailers?

On the matter of wearing a safety helmet for riding a cycle, your greatest source of risk is being hit by a motor vehicle. That being the case, younwill most likely receive sevear traumatic injury to legs, ribs .etc as well as possible head injury.. Ergo, the most safe option is not to ride a cycle in mixed traffic..

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Without wishing to turn this into another cycling topic......

Most of the incidents involving cyclists I know do not involve motor vehicles, but I agree with the sentiment regarding traumatic injury when it does. Exactly the same applies to occupants of vehicles when motor vehicles crash. Ergo, the most safe option is not to drive in traffic.
 
For the record, I'm not advocating wearing a helmet at all times when sailing solo. However, as I've already experienced, it's quite easy to slip and fall on deck or down below. We've all probably received bruises from doing so. However, should I do so and take a blow to the head, I'm then unconscious, alone, under sail, etc. I suppose it takes having an injury when alone to make you think wearing a helmet from time it time makes sense.
 
You can get 'bump hat' baseball caps, which are easy to wear & you wouldn't be embarrased wearing, should you meet another forumite.
I've used them when working on commercial work boats, so visit you local industrial safety stuff shop.

Also http://www.arco.co.uk/products/409400

I have one - a freebie from the NHS when they couldn't convince me that sailing and massive doses of wharfarin don't mix.
 
I have one - a freebie from the NHS when they couldn't convince me that sailing and massive doses of wharfarin don't mix.
It so happens I was on warfarin when I bought my first boat, and not wishing to become a vegetable due to bleeding on the brain caused by a slight whack of the boom, I chose to wear a cycling helmet. I came off warfarin a few years later, but continued with the helmet.
 
Similarly you don't wear a helmet when walking in the country because the risk is low, but if you start going rock climbing most people very sensibly wear a helmet because rocks and pebbles are disturbed by people above and might hit you on the head.

I am not supporting health and safety madness, but sensible risk assessment means you use reasonable precautions to mitigate the risk of using your head to bounce things off. If you choose to do your own risk assessment and say that you aren't going to wear a hard hat to go rock climbing, then that's your look out. In a yard with a crane, then you don't get a choice and I don't see what the problem is.

Having been a member of a mountaineering club for 30 years I can tell you catergorically that helmets are worn for rock climbing mainly to protect climbers when falling against the rock, not for falling stones etc. The worst injury I've seen, which needed a helicopter rescue, was suffered by a GP when walking on a Scottish Island and a sheep dislodged a boulder. And no, she doesn't now wear a helmet either for walking or sailing!
And yes, I do have a choice about wearing a helmet in a boatyard, I choose not to, neither do I wear a cycling helmet whilst on a bike. I've climbed for many years without a helmet but as I get less agile, sometimes I wear one if the route is one I may fall off.
 
Having been a member of a mountaineering club for 30 years I can tell you catergorically that helmets are worn for rock climbing mainly to protect climbers when falling against the rock, not for falling stones etc. The worst injury I've seen, which needed a helicopter rescue, was suffered by a GP when walking on a Scottish Island and a sheep dislodged a boulder. And no, she doesn't now wear a helmet either for walking or sailing!
And yes, I do have a choice about wearing a helmet in a boatyard, I choose not to, neither do I wear a cycling helmet whilst on a bike. I've climbed for many years without a helmet but as I get less agile, sometimes I wear one if the route is one I may fall off.



hmmm ...the major factor in the decision to put a lid on of all the climbers i know (and I 've been climbing for 38 years now) is loose rock situations.
 
Having been a member of a mountaineering club for 30 years I can tell you catergorically that helmets are worn for rock climbing mainly to protect climbers when falling against the rock, not for falling stones etc. The worst injury I've seen, which needed a helicopter rescue, was suffered by a GP when walking on a Scottish Island and a sheep dislodged a boulder. And no, she doesn't now wear a helmet either for walking or sailing!
And yes, I do have a choice about wearing a helmet in a boatyard, I choose not to, neither do I wear a cycling helmet whilst on a bike. I've climbed for many years without a helmet but as I get less agile, sometimes I wear one if the route is one I may fall off.
Well I am tempted to say good for you but as I live and work amongst climbers and they tell me that wearing a helmet is as much to protect against falling stones etc as it is against bashing your head if you fall I am not sure I believe you. However as I am not a climber you can argue what you like - I just repeated what my local experts tell me. I was trying to think of an obvious place where a helmet is common sense for most people - and apparently I failed as it doesn't seem to be common sense to you.

Furthermore you are welcome not to wear a helmet when cycling. However many people will think that you are foolish, because cycle helmets are cheap, readily available and often protect people against serious brain injury. Years ago they were not cheap effective and readily available, but times move on, therefore the accepted advice and practice now is to wear a helmet.

However if we get back to the original issue, if you were in our boatyard and chose to exercise your 'freedom' not to wear a helmet when boats are being slung then you would be asked to leave and all crane operations would stop until you either put a helmet on or you left. You might think its a silly rule, but that's the way it is. In this matter you don't get a choice as other people might be construed to be liable for easily avoidable injuries. This is NOT Health and Safety gone mad, its just common sense in requiring you to wear appropriate personal protective equipment.

Although I sympathise slightly with your stand against your alleged freedoms being eroded, I suspect you are in a very small minority on the boat yard and refusing to wear a helmet question for all the obvious reasons that I have already outlined.
 
I keep my Gecko surfing helmet on board in case I've got to go up the mast or over the side to cut something

That's not unreasonable. Wearing a helmet all the time is a bit OTT, IMHO. Not very many people get their heads bashed in while sailing in extreme conditions, let alone benign conditions.
 
hmmm ...the major factor in the decision to put a lid on of all the climbers i know (and I 've been climbing for 38 years now) is loose rock situations.

Depends where you climb. On many of the Peak District edges [Stanage/Froggatt/Roaches etc] there is very little loose rock, but many situations where a fall can result in banging the head. On limestone there will be more loose rock, also sea cliffs, especially after a hard winter, where people may choose to wear a helmet, but these are much less frequented than the gritstone edges [God's own rock:D]. Of course, the Outdoor Centres will insist on helmets, that's like learning to sail without appreciating how the wind changes.
Of course it's up to people to make their own minds up, but it's a sad reflection on society where youngsters are brought up in a nanny-state where nothing can be allowed to go wrong or be uncomfortable. Another pathetic example is the widespread use of wetsuits by kids on the beach in summer.
 
Yesterday I had my worst boom to head accident on board, and it knocked me for 6 and left me spinning a bit, with a lump on my bonce just like in the cartoons. :eek:

The most annoying bit is that the boat is on props in the boat park. :mad:

But I won't be donning helmet each time I go up the ladder - somehow it just seems wrong despite the clear and incontrovertible personal experience. :rolleyes:
 
Depends where you climb. On many of the Peak District edges [Stanage/Froggatt/Roaches etc] there is very little loose rock, but many situations where a fall can result in banging the head. On limestone there will be more loose rock, also sea cliffs, especially after a hard winter, where people may choose to wear a helmet, but these are much less frequented than the gritstone edges [God's own rock:D]. Of course, the Outdoor Centres will insist on helmets, that's like learning to sail without appreciating how the wind changes.
Of course it's up to people to make their own minds up, but it's a sad reflection on society where youngsters are brought up in a nanny-state where nothing can be allowed to go wrong or be uncomfortable. Another pathetic example is the widespread use of wetsuits by kids on the beach in summer.

Hmm .. there been a few fatalities at Millstone due to loose rock coming down from above ...
 
The top of one of the cabin doors is just slightly lower than the rest and, for the first few weeks of owning the boat, I was sporting a permanent left to right cut on the top of my (bald!) head. Even now I say "mind your head" everytime I enter the cabin.
 
I sail alone mostly, on a small boat, and as I gain experience I'm sailing further from port. Whilst sailing in the Kyles of Bute I fell and cut my knee open - it really needed stitches, but I was able to craft some steri-strips from plasters to pull it together to get me home. I always wear my LJ, and I have safety lines in use.

What concerns me though is how I'd deal with a nasty head injury. I was once clouted by the boom of my Laser2000 - there were plenty of people around to help, and needed hospital treatment. I'm considering getting a canoe helmet for when the risk of a fall increases. Does anyone already wear one? If so, what type?

We carry an Ice hockey helmet on board for rig work at sea same type as when i used to skateboard. Very effective when swinging around at the top of the mast.
 
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