Hello all, a quick hello!

SolentDavid said:
Hi Sneds

I am still looking at all options. I know the rough size and I want twin diesel. So far, the Targa is my favourite, but I have been looking at others.

This is something I've been looking at for a few years as I always knew I wanted to get back into boating, but the lockdown has made my mind up to do it sooner now, as the 'right time' will never come.

I've always liked Sealines from when I was young, so would always look at them and others. But it's the timeless looks, and build quality as well as the seakeeping performance that attracts me to the Targa.

But closer to the time you never know what will appear on the market at a price that attracts me! It will be fun searching and trying out, thats for sure!
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David remember boats are not like cars , you cannot try boats out so easily.
 
LBRodders said:
David,

First things first - I hope you are a Pompey fan!

(y):LOL:

The Fairline Targa 29 [or 27] is a lovely boat. We have the predecessor to the 27, the Sunfury - although I think at some point they were making both models.
The hulls and layouts are pretty much identical with a bit of styling differences here and there.

What we realised on our search is at a certain price you are paying an awful lot for an old boat. I call it the no man's land budget, applies to cars too! Serious man maths is required in this sector!

We laid our priorities bare, and realised that it was better for us to have a reliable old boat than a less reliable newer/less old one.
With me working away, and us living a distance to the sea, we wanted to turn up and go enjoy the weekend with as little stress as possible.

So in short we purchased the best hull and interior we could find knowing we were going to drop a new engine in. By our logic and for what we wanted - we got 'a new boat' for not new boat money. Far from cheap, but it was an experience we enjoyed.

With new electrics and mechanicals, we know and own the history [plus warranty]. A nice feeling that is impossible to price, and is more valuable to some than others.

It's all horses for courses, but my 2p is that 20-30 year mechanicals that have [predominantly] lived in sea water are close to their end of life. A stress free, cheap maintenance life anyway! *Times two in a twin engine boat!

Enjoy looking, its the best bit. With the media portraying that we are all doomed and the impending hike in diesel price at the water - doing nothing maybe a good thing for now.

Here is a short compilation of photos and videos of our first season.

Hopefully some food for thought.

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Hi and thanks for your reply.

I grew up on the west side of the M27, so probably best not to mention the football lol!!!

I hear you completely and understand what you’re saying. It is a lot of money for an old boat and what you are saying is completely true. I will be getting a full survey done and hopefully when the time comes, find a freshwater based one or one that has been dry stacked (like I intend to do) recently.

The expected hike in diesel prices is something I’ve only just learnt about since joining this site. I wonder what the expected costs per litre are going to be? Then the difference between petrol and diesel options might throw up new questions and answers.

I know from showing my wife pictures of different boats that she would prefer the T29/28. It’s still the one I want. However, when the time comes, and if I can’t find one in good condition with a good survey report, I will look at other marques and find the one for us.

Your video was a great watch. Looks like you’ve already had a lot of good times with her. Hopefully see you out on the water soon!
 
seastoke said:
David remember boats are not like cars , you cannot try boats out so easily.
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Hi seastoke

I will be doing sea trials and taking someone to do a survey on the boat so will use this as a time to show my wife how different boats handle the sea.

This goes back to a point I made earlier that the Targa handles better than some other marques of the same size, especially those designed for use on large lakes predominantly.

I wish it were as simple as test driving cars though. But then I’d probably be doing it every weekend without ever buying one!
 
SolentDavid said:
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I will be doing sea trials and taking someone to do a survey on the boat so will use this as a time to show my wife how different boats handle the sea.
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I don't think you'll have much luck persuading owners to do sea trials unless you've made and they have accepted an offer, "subject to sea trial" etc. So using this as a strategy to demo various boats to your wife so she can help you pick the one she likes, is probably doomed...
 
Scala said:
I don't think you'll have much luck persuading owners to do sea trials unless you've made and they have accepted an offer, "subject to sea trial" etc. So using this as a strategy to demo various boats to your wife so she can help you pick the one she likes, is probably doomed...
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It will be once a deal is agreed, subject to survey/sea trial. I won't be paying for a survey for every boat I like the look of before an agreed price, subject to survey is agreed. I won't buy one without a sea trial though.

Also, I'll probably go through a broker and if a sea trail can't be done, I'll walk. I've waited years for this, so I'll wait for the right one with trials/surveys done.
 
ya, no. You and the wife can go and look at as many boats as there are on the market but to switch it on you'll need to go into contract with an offer. However I will say trying to compare a boats handling at sea (rough water) is a vain undertaking. In the genre you are looking at they will all be roughly the same and from personal experience I can say that the better boat often depends entirely on the conditions of the day. I often travel in a group and some rough days I plough ahead of the pack and others I fall behind. All depends on wave period, height etc. No boat in the group can claim to be better in rough water handling, they can only find their ideal rhythm.
 
You might get lucky of course, and that's more likely with a private sale where you can strike up a relationship with the seller, that it is with a broker.

You must do a sea trial, of course, but the normal route would be .. View boat. Make conditonal offer. Vendor accepts subject to conditions. Sign contract. Pay deposit. Organise survey. Undertake sea trial with surveyor.

Edit. Doh. What Bruce said.
 
Scala said:
You must do a sea trial, of course, but the normal route would be .. View boat. Make conditonal offer. Vendor accepts subject to conditions. Sign contract. Pay deposit. Organise survey. Undertake sea trial with surveyor.

Edit. Doh. What Bruce said.
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That was the route I was expecting to take. And have it written in clearly what factors would enable me to pull out of the deal and receive my deposit back following the trial/survey.
 
SolentDavid said:
That was the route I was expecting to take. And have it written in clearly what factors would enable me to pull out of the deal and receive my deposit back following the trial/survey.
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Yes that's all good. But earlier you seemed to be suggesting that you could do some sea trials with your wife on board, to try out some boats and see which one(s) she liked. That was where I (and possibly others) thought you'd run into resistance from the brokers.

Although you'll find that factors that enable you to pull out would probably not include the fact that your wife no likey.
 
Scala said:
Yes that's all good. But earlier you seemed to be suggesting that you could do some sea trials with your wife on board, to try out some boats and see which one(s) she liked. That was where I (and possibly others) thought you'd run into resistance from the brokers.

Although you'll find that factors that enable you to pull out would probably not include the fact that your wife no likey.
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Apologies if it came across like that. I knew I wouldn't just be able to turn up and test them that easily. Even most car dealers these days expect the deal to be pretty much done before allowing a test drive in my last experiences.
 
SolentDavid said:
Apologies if it came across like that. I knew I wouldn't just be able to turn up and test them that easily. Even most car dealers these days expect the deal to be pretty much done before allowing a test drive in my last experiences.
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You must realise , if you put down a deposit , and it surveys ok and performs on sea trial , you will lose deposit if ex wife says I want the blue one.
 
SolentDavid said:
Apologies if it came across like that. I knew I wouldn't just be able to turn up and test them that easily. Even most car dealers these days expect the deal to be pretty much done before allowing a test drive in my last experiences.
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No prob.

seastoke said:
You must realise , if you put down a deposit , and it surveys ok and performs on sea trial , you will lose deposit if ex wife says I want the blue one.
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Well that was my point really.

OP, let us know how you get on. Everyone loves a "new boat" thread :)
 
seastoke said:
You must realise , if you put down a deposit , and it surveys ok and performs on sea trial , you will lose deposit if ex wife says I want the blue one.
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I'm quite aware of that. This may be my first boat purchase, but thought I would say hello on here and get some ideas off others who have been there, but I'm not quite as stupid as your post insinuates!

Scala said:
No prob.

OP, let us know how you get on. Everyone loves a "new boat" thread :)
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Will do. It won't be until next year, so plenty of searching to do, and courses to complete.
 
SolentDavid said:
I'm quite aware of that. This may be my first boat purchase, but thought I would say hello on here and get some ideas off others who have been there, but I'm not quite as stupid as your post insinuates!



Will do. It won't be until next year, so plenty of searching to do, and courses to complete.
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I wasn’t trying to insult you giving info, as some peeps don’t understand how it works , I would give you some stick but you seem a little serious it I hope you get a nice boat.
 
seastoke said:
I wasn’t trying to insult you giving info, as some peeps don’t understand how it works , I would give you some stick but you seem a little serious it I hope you get boat.
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I'm happy to take stick, it's all part of the banter and fun! Forums are always places where people can read between the lines and cause all sorts of arguments!

Any advice is gladly taken by me!
 
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