Hayling Island Sailing Club - why are they so rude?

It's alright for you to laugh.. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'm scared of being chased by that lot wearing aprons and their trousers rolled up.

Don't the Royal Yacht Squadron blackball people? Next time I'm round the back diving down into their skip ( usually full of fathoms of "offcuts" etc:) I'll have a listen to see if they're going to invite me to join. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif :
 
One of the main reasons I recently moved to Caernarfon & joined the Royal Welsh, was the friendly & welcoming attitude of the members I met.

They were (and continue to be) very helpful & invited me & my family to use their facilities & join in the Barbie. No mention was ever made of joining, but we decided we wanted to be more involved.
 
Reminds me of a tale a friend told me several years ago now. He was hoisting sail, taking sails down, can't remember now, it maters little. He would'nt deliberately be obstructive, but he was in the process of completing the task when a rib approached him, he was really quite busy at the time. The plumy spoken woman announced "excuse me, your on our start line", to which my friend replied, "Yes madam, YOUR start line, but not mine!" /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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Reminds me of a tale a friend told me several years ago now. He was hoisting sail, taking sails down, can't remember now, it maters little. He would'nt deliberately be obstructive, but he was in the process of completing the task when a rib approached him, he was really quite busy at the time. The plumy spoken woman announced "excuse me, your on our start line", to which my friend replied, "Yes madam, YOUR start line, but not mine!" /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Ah - sounds like Salcombe - when we were inadvertantly anchored on their start line. _ weren't exactly polite in asking us to move!
 
When we first started racing dinghys we notice how many yacht clubs suffered a degree of snobbishness if they had big boats as well as dinghys. When we first raced at HISC I observed that they raised this snobbishnedd to new heights by having a members only bar. Not sure if its still the same.

Individually I found most of the HISC members we sailed against very friendly.
 
I first sailed at HISC in the Tornado Nationals in about 1974. They were the most unwelcoming club any of us had ever been to. Great sailing water but the club was just there to grab as much of our money as possible. I remember the manager being particularly unpleasant.
The next time I went there was to pick up a mooring overnight in the early 90's. Very welcoming and pleasant. Sounds as though they may have gone back to their old ways!
 
Hi - I remember those Nationals - Some strong winds and lots of broken masts. I seem to remember that the depth of water in the bay was about the hight of the masts, so many broken ones.
 
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Half is in the ''LETTERs''
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Very windy! I remember we were sharing the event with Shearwaters and one day it was so windy they set the course inside the harbour. We went off first and were finishing the first lap, going through the start line as the Shearwaters were coming up to start. Chaos with the speed differentials.Lots of broken masts and more. We had an early plywood boat that was barely worth taking home at the end of the week.
 
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It seems HISC actually OWN Chi Harbour - or at least the bit between Hayling and Itchenor.

That's certainly the impression members give should you dare try to cross 'their' water when they are sailing.... sometimes seems they are competing for a 'rudest helmsmen of the day' cup! By far the mosy ill mannered people in the harbour - quite unable to manage a race without being rude and inconsiderate to the rest of us.

Absolutely, and the whole of the Thorney Channel, if they choose to set a course up it, while you are trying to complete a passage. Oh and the whole sea between West Pole and the Funfair likewise.

One August pm, we were coming in under power, HW to catch, no wind when you need it, end of the "summer" cruise, nice steady 7kts, rhumb line along the contours from the Inshore Boat Channel. Guess who had set up from inshore to out beyond the rhumb line right by West Pole?
Their safety crews and RO's didn't even deign to notice us until far too late, then were incapable of simple vectors between us and their spinny fleet. Since we had been watching the racing from afar, timing the legs, and stood on accordingly. Jackinape in rib rushed over; "our race fleet...." "I see and have seen your Spinnaker leg race fleet, Sir" proceeded steady speed and course, cleared all the fleet frontage and the support flotilla(which straggled another 0.25nm behind the line to seaward), around WP and 100m on way over the Bar before the first competitor was even within 200m of a gun.

One of our crew was one of the best racing coaches and racing dinghy helms I have ever met. We were all ex dinghy, we could see all points of view, but thought that setting a finish right beside WP was foolish, unseamanlike or very arrogant.
Half a nm Westward, an nmW better still, but no doubt the catering manager and RC House wanted the National fleet back in quick to spend more money??

Another example is setting their Cruiser Start line across the inner entrance, in a Strong F6, when some of us are trying to sail back in in surfing seas. Get into the relative calm of the channel, then realise that you've got a wall of deadeyed d**ks in front who won't budge an inch- see you on the sands first!

Funnily enough, from something earlier up the thread, some of us call'em "HISC Timeshare Sailing PLC"- very much a Play n Play n bugger every one else attitude from members.
The Moth guys there are mostly ok on the water, however, but then they are real enthusiasts!
A Definite need for a compulsory amendment to their SIs to be carried openly on board and read out before launch by helms entitled "You are part of a Hbr Community and must realise that IPRCS and Conservancy bylaws supersede the IYRU rules. Failure to comply resulting in a complaint from another Harbour user will automatically incur a DNF, replaced, if upheld, by a non displacable DSQ, whichever shall inflict the greater penalty for poor seamanship and bringing the club into disrepute- cos it does."

Long term view- the sea level is rising and the really good spots are held by much nicer Clubs. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I remember that from the shearwater's side. Most scary thing ever, trying to start with the Tornado fleet screaming round the leeward mark on Port at what seemed like 4 million knots. Mind you the ones at the back were going slower than most of the shearwaters.
I remember the friendly manager a very quietly spoken chap from wha I recall. Don't think I have been back since.

Mind you I think most Yacht Clubs are the same. Committee think they own the place and everybody else has to do as they are told. You find though that most rank and file members just ignore them.
 
"Mind you I think most Yacht Clubs are the same. Committee think they own the place and everybody else has to do as they are told. You find though that most rank and file members just ignore them.

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Oi, i'm on our Committee- i got given strong drink n crimped tho'. You're right about being ignored, mind. One word from a Flag Officer and they all stick 2 digits up and carry on talking /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
We have occasionally picked up an HISC mooring for a short lunch stop [admittedly mid-week] and no-one has ever come near us asking for money. I don't know if this is due to being in a classic boat, wearing an undefaced blue ensign and RNSA burgee,or just the fact that we look as if we do not have two halfpennies to scratch together. Anyway, many thanks to HISC for allowing us this small priviledge.

By the way, a point of grammar for our resident pedants. Is it correct to say "an HISC mooring", as you would say an hotel, or should it be "a HISC mooring"? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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By the way, a point of grammar for our resident pedants. Is it correct to say "an HISC mooring", as you would say an hotel, or should it be "a HISC mooring"? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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An interesting side track...
I believe that it should be " a Hotel" or "an 'otel" depending if you drop the H.
As for HISC, as this is an acronym I would have said "an H.I.S.C mooring" or "a Hisc mooring" if you pronounce the acronym as a word.
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There are various sets of rules regarding a / an.

One set says that if the word is of French origin then use 'an' as in 'an hotel ' but use 'a' for words of Anglo Saxon origin as in 'a hedgehog'

'Hayling ' I would suggest, comes from the AS and so only an 'a'.

There are other rules that differ......
 
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By the way, a point of grammar for our resident pedants. Is it correct to say "an HISC mooring", as you would say an hotel, or should it be "a HISC mooring"?

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What about An hostile person - sounds wrong!
 
Should be an hotel, an hostile person an HISC mooring regardless of whether the h is dropped. It sounds strange because it has fallen from common useage like different from / similar to rather than different to.
 
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