Hayling Island Rescue Service

[Angele]

This seems an odd thing to say. Do you mean they would receive fewer donations?

Pete

I think the RNLI is a great institution. It has its detractors, many of them in here. Personally I don't share those views. I strongly support what they do but, in part, my Governorship helps to assuage my guilt that, if ever I need to call on them, I have already helped to fund their services. If they would simply present me with a bill for a rescue, then some of that logic disappears.

If they did charge, I suspect they would receive less money voluntarily (whether by "membership" or donations). Most probably they could make good that shortfall through such charges, but that wouldn't be the same RNLI that I currently support.

 

[prv]

If they did charge, I suspect they would receive less money voluntarily

Right, I agree, but it seems odd to phrase that as "fewer members". I don't see the RNLI as a club or membership organisation (except in the sense that their boat and shore crew volunteers are members).

Pete

 

[Angele]

Right, I agree, but it seems odd to phrase that as "fewer members". I don't see the RNLI as a club or membership organisation (except in the sense that their boat and shore crew volunteers are members).

Pete

... but the RNLI does offer various levels of membership (Shoreline, Offshore, Governor, etc), and my "membership card" has a "membership number" - so you might not see it that way, but others probably do.

http://rnli.org/donateorbecomeamember/Pages/become-a-member.aspx

I accept, however, that being a "member" buys you no special rights in the way that, for example, membership of Sea Start does.

 

[Mark-1]

there is a short film about him here:

Thanks for that, great film.

Looks like people can donate to his servicing costs if they wish:
https://www.hisc.co.uk/media/14570/friends_of_hayling_rescue.pdf

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[chanelyacht]

My point was more that if the CG are directly tasking an asset to respond to an urgency call what checks do they carry out to ensure that the asset is up to the job?

There are declared resources, and additional resources. A declared resource (e.g. RNLI or indie lifeboat, CG's own teams, etc) are assessed regularly and have a long accreditation process. They are the only resources that would be "called out" to an incident.

Additional resources are not accredited, but are whatever is about at the time - e.g. you on your vessel responding to am "any vessels" broadcast and offering your help. We rely on you knowing your limits, and there certainly are incidents when, due to their nature, an offer of assistance would be declined.

Frank has been going many years, and is often afloat on patrol anyway so will be tasked to tow jobs, etc. I think he actually has an RNLI gallantry award as well.

The RNLI would like everyone to think they are the only sea rescue service, but there are others equally as competent.

 

[chanelyacht]

If someone else does have me in tow, I'll be very happy to say thanks (and "buy" out their salvage rights) with a bottle or two or some beer money. But, personally, I would prefer that when a real rescue is needed the Coast Guard task the best trained crew, with the most capable boat for the job.

To me, that is the RNLI.
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We always task the most appropriate asset. It isn't always the RNLI - the 60 or so accredited independent boats are just as capable, or they wouldn't be declared.

Hamble Lifeboat, for example, is a jet driven boat, and far more appropriate to task in certain circumstances than the Calshot RNLI prop boat.

 

[Angele]

We always task the most appropriate asset. It isn't always the RNLI - the 60 or so accredited independent boats are just as capable, or they wouldn't be declared.

Hamble Lifeboat, for example, is a jet driven boat, and far more appropriate to task in certain circumstances than the Calshot RNLI prop boat.

I'll happily defer to your expert judgement to get me out of the do-do should the worst happen.... :encouragement:

 

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We always task the most appropriate asset. It isn't always the RNLI - the 60 or so accredited independent boats are just as capable, or they wouldn't be declared.

Hamble Lifeboat, for example, is a jet driven boat, and far more appropriate to task in certain circumstances than the Calshot RNLI prop boat.

Having been standing by at close quarters when Frank rescued a sailor that had fallen overboard dragging in the water by his harness in a 4ft swell, I can confidently say that he still has the right stuff.

For towing, or shallow water shouts, his boat has advantages. If multiple crew are needed, the B class might be a better bet.

Like Ryde Rescue, Hayling Rescue lowers the load on the RNLI, mostly when it comes to towing and breakdowns.

 

[wooslehunter]

Repeating a few comment because it's important.

Frank gets lots of jobs because he's always immediately available. He lives on the boat & HISC allow him to use their facilities when it gets cold. The boat is kept on the water & he's mobile within seconds of being called. There are very few other boats around the country that can offer that service.

When he helps most yachties, they do think he's RNLI & possibly drop a few £ there & not to him. This, together with the fact he has no big marketing organisation behind him means he always going to be strapped for cash. Don't forget, he financed the boat with his own pension fund.

So, please support Frank & the other independents.

 

[derekgillard]

Hear hear

Repeating a few comment because it's important.

Frank gets lots of jobs because he's always immediately available. He lives on the boat & HISC allow him to use their facilities when it gets cold. The boat is kept on the water & he's mobile within seconds of being called. There are very few other boats around the country that can offer that service.

When he helps most yachties, they do think he's RNLI & possibly drop a few £ there & not to him. This, together with the fact he has no big marketing organisation behind him means he always going to be strapped for cash. Don't forget, he financed the boat with his own pension fund.

So, please support Frank & the other independents.