MoodySabre
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Promised to take someone there. Time running out.
Have they started work on the Montgomery yet?
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AntarcticPilot
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And if they get it wrong, time will run out even faster!
Biggles Wader
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I havnt heard anything----boom boom!
Concerto
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The masts are supposed to be removed this month. There is no Notice to Mariners covering it yet from Peel Ports, so I assume work has not started yet or close to starting. Sorry I cannot check further as I am now on Concerto in Amble, Northumbria.
PeterMax
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There seems to be a boat or two around it most times I sneak by it, quietly and as quickly as my sailing craft will take me, but the masts are still up so good for a quick visit. I snigger at some commercial boats advertising trips to it, one place I prefer to pass by asap
LittleSister
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They've missed the chance to use it as part of a firework display for the Jubilee!
That should be a safe distance!
That should be a safe distance!
steve yates
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Now we know you chose to round britain this year
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xyachtdave
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Ow we know you chose to round britain this year
He's gone where? Is there a link or similar...?
Concerto
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This is the link to the first thread and contains a link to the next thread and onwards. Round Britian day 1He's gone where? Is there a link or similar...?
In my signature is the link to the first video covering Chatham to the Humber. If you subscribe to my YouTube channel you will be notified of new videos.
Currently I am in Eyemouth, Scotland and waiting till better winds to take me to Stonehaven and onward to the Shetland Isles, before returning down the other side.
westhinder
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I passed it today, the masts are still up
PeterMax
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I was trying to sail from Queenborough to the area around the Thames mouth yesterday afternoon but the wind was blowing straight from the west and the tide was coming out and all I ended up doing was tacking up and down against the tide with these bloomin masts coming by every now and then. Nice breeze though and great weather
Concerto
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Even once the masts are removed, you might still be able to see them
Kent v Essex in battle over bomb ship masts
Kent v Essex in battle over bomb ship masts
PeterMax
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If they set the ship off while removing them they might have to go find them in the Atlantic somewhere! I don't care what they do with them as long as they don't set the whole bang-shoot off in the process, I'd probably have to go and look for my boat in the Atlantic as well. Reason they're removing them is because the ship is decaying so the masts might be in a similar state.
AntarcticPilot
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I'd be very surprised if they come off in big pieces. They have to be very careful not to create excessive vibration or any big shocks such as might happen if a big lump fell - after all, that's why they're removing them! So I suspect they'll be chopped up into small pieces for safety. I doubt there will be anything worth displaying. Isn't it also the case that the masts are becoming structurally unsound?
oldgit
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Could have got some of the local "Sheppey" entrepenuers to have shifted those masts.
They would have had those down and round the scrap yard in 24 hours, mind you most of the bouys would probably be missing as well. !
They would have had those down and round the scrap yard in 24 hours, mind you most of the bouys would probably be missing as well. !
R.Ems
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I can't see how a lump of metal falling on deck (falling slowly through water) would cause any more shock than decades of storms plus 1000's of heavy ships going past?
There's a lot of hype and hysteria flying around. (Not picking on you in particular Antarctic Pilot.)
The bits of mast ought to be chopped up, mounted and sold. I would love a piece of the Monty in a case on the bulkhead, I already have bits of the Cutty Sark and HMS Victory.
They would sell like hot cakes, and the money could go to a charity for seafarers.
Culturally, the ship is part of Kent! Essex has no more claim than Lancashire
AntarcticPilot
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Well, the rationale for removing the masts is because they fear that they could fall and trigger an explosion. And a lump of metal doesn't fall that slowly through water; shipwrecks (which have inevitably reached their terminal velocity in deep water) are frequently deeply embedded in the seabed because they hit at a considerable speed - the Titanic, for example, at about 20 knots (10m/sec). Terminal velocity in water is reached in the first few metres, so the depth doesn't greatly matter. Finally, it's shock that could set off an explosion; yes, the other things you mention exert pressure on the hull, but none are shock loads.I can't see how a lump of metal falling on deck (falling slowly through water) would cause any more shock than decades of storms plus 1000's of heavy ships going past?
There's a lot of hype and hysteria flying around. (Not picking on you in particular Antarctic Pilot.)
The bits of mast ought to be chopped up, mounted and sold. I would love a piece of the Monty in a case on the bulkhead, I already have bits of the Cutty Sark and HMS Victory.
They would sell like hot cakes, and the money could go to a charity for seafarers.
Culturally, the ship is part of Kent! Essex has no more claim than Lancashire
Finally, the Mongomery is nothing special - she's a bog standard Liberty ship, of which thousands were built and there are preserved examples. Her significance ONLY arises because she's a danger to the surrounding area!
Kukri
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Her purpose is to supply a frisson of fear and horror to the otherwise rather dull entrance to the Medway.
Juan Twothree
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A friend shared this on Facebook:
This is one of the ten holds (five main holds and five between decks) of the Montgomery being loaded with ammunition before she came across the pond.
This is one of the ten holds (five main holds and five between decks) of the Montgomery being loaded with ammunition before she came across the pond.
Kukri
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The tank top plating of a Liberty ship was .44” thick, according to the scantling section drawings published by ABS.
I hope a metallurgist may happen upon this thread but pending an expert opinion I think that there is certainly a chance that those tank tops are no longer there.
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