Black Sheep
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Register her on the SSR - then she'll be a small ship!
Have I got a yacht or a boat?
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LadyInBed
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If it's less than 30ft, a craft.
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If it's less than 30ft, a craft.
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tcm
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superyacht definition
if it's over 120 feet long AND the speaker or author can't afford it by a factor of ten or more the it's a superyacht. Note that JoeV never seemed to called M5 a superyacht.
if it's over 120 feet long AND the speaker or author can't afford it by a factor of ten or more the it's a superyacht. Note that JoeV never seemed to called M5 a superyacht.
sailorman
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When does a boat become a yacht?
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Errm - around about the time the owner starts sailing in blazer, cravat, and peaked cap with gold braid
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didnt i see you on the Orwell once /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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When does a boat become a yacht?
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Errm - around about the time the owner starts sailing in blazer, cravat, and peaked cap with gold braid
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didnt i see you on the Orwell once /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Tisme
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I've always assumed that a boat you can sleep on is a Yacht...and a boom tent on a Topper doesn't count!
Oldhand
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Strange, the nuke I went on was a boat, things must have changed since 1974.
Seven Spades
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I would say she's a yacht when she is not a day boat. i.e. if she is big enough live on for a while.
tome
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Nope, one only ever refers to someone elses boat as a yacht. Never one's own
tcm got this right many posts ago so there's an opportunity for a lakesailoring here
tcm got this right many posts ago so there's an opportunity for a lakesailoring here
Tisme
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Nope, one only ever refers to someone elses boat as a yacht. Never one's own
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It's never occured to me like that, but that is so true. Calling your own boat a "yacht" does seem a bit pretentious.
Nope, one only ever refers to someone elses boat as a yacht. Never one's own
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It's never occured to me like that, but that is so true. Calling your own boat a "yacht" does seem a bit pretentious.
tome
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Re: Nice phrase
Oxygen thieves have been spotted in Emsworth at least a half-generation back
Oxygen thieves have been spotted in Emsworth at least a half-generation back
Lakesailor
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It never becomes a yacht. It's always a boat. It could be a sailboat or a powerboat. I'm not attempting a Lakesailor here. I am merely backing up tcm and tome (in a manner of speaking)
Unless, of course, you are from the colonies.
Unless, of course, you are from the colonies.
Birdseye
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Interesting question this since it is replete with unspoken class nuances.
One of our local clubs had the most furious row at the AGM when a member brought forward a proposal to change the name from ***** sailing club to *****yacht club on the basis that "it sounded better". And what the row boiled down to was whether the club was a middle class yacht club (dinner jackets for the Annual Dinner Dance etc) or a working mans sailing club ( I'm not wearing a bl**y penguin suit for anyone!). An argument that has since simmered on in the background on such issues as the standard of the club catering etc.
But all the boats have masts which would, to my mind, make them "yachts". I've always made the distinction between motorboats and small yachts. But as illustrated by the row above, there are lots of people who would see it as pretentious and snobby to descibe their sailing boat as a yacht.
Odd since the word yacht comes from the dutch for a small boat.
One of our local clubs had the most furious row at the AGM when a member brought forward a proposal to change the name from ***** sailing club to *****yacht club on the basis that "it sounded better". And what the row boiled down to was whether the club was a middle class yacht club (dinner jackets for the Annual Dinner Dance etc) or a working mans sailing club ( I'm not wearing a bl**y penguin suit for anyone!). An argument that has since simmered on in the background on such issues as the standard of the club catering etc.
But all the boats have masts which would, to my mind, make them "yachts". I've always made the distinction between motorboats and small yachts. But as illustrated by the row above, there are lots of people who would see it as pretentious and snobby to descibe their sailing boat as a yacht.
Odd since the word yacht comes from the dutch for a small boat.
jamesjermain
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When does a boat become a yacht?
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When the owner gets delusions of grandeur
When does a boat become a yacht?
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When the owner gets delusions of grandeur
Lakesailor
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But you don't wear a Dutch Cap do you?
I don't see what the Dutch have got to do with it. They also call those steel sausage-like lighters "ferries".
A boat with masts on is a sail boat. I think the use of the word yacht about your own boat is social-climbing and aspirational. If it's a huge thing with a massive engine and crew, and only travels at displacement speeds it could be a yacht.
On the other hand it could be the Isle of Wight Ferry.
I don't see what the Dutch have got to do with it. They also call those steel sausage-like lighters "ferries".
A boat with masts on is a sail boat. I think the use of the word yacht about your own boat is social-climbing and aspirational. If it's a huge thing with a massive engine and crew, and only travels at displacement speeds it could be a yacht.
On the other hand it could be the Isle of Wight Ferry.
beancounter
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When does a boat become a yacht?
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Errm - around about the time the owner starts sailing in blazer, cravat, and peaked cap with gold braid
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didnt i see you on the Orwell once /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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M'dear fellow - terribly sorry if one didn't acknowledge your presence. Must have been dealing with the paid hands - they get so frightfully uppity these days.
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When does a boat become a yacht?
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Errm - around about the time the owner starts sailing in blazer, cravat, and peaked cap with gold braid
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didnt i see you on the Orwell once /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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M'dear fellow - terribly sorry if one didn't acknowledge your presence. Must have been dealing with the paid hands - they get so frightfully uppity these days.
Twister_Ken
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Note to moderator
How about an 'unquote' option.
How about an 'unquote' option.
Matrosen
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I don't see what the Dutch have got to do with it.
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They only invented the word. In about 16th/17th century a Dutch Prince/King commisioned a small, fast sailing ship to be built solely for pleasure purposes. It was called a Jacht or similar spelling. (Perhaps one of our Dutch Forumites could tell us what it means?)The Right Royal Bar Steward has cost me a fortune as a result. ;-)
I don't see what the Dutch have got to do with it.
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They only invented the word. In about 16th/17th century a Dutch Prince/King commisioned a small, fast sailing ship to be built solely for pleasure purposes. It was called a Jacht or similar spelling. (Perhaps one of our Dutch Forumites could tell us what it means?)The Right Royal Bar Steward has cost me a fortune as a result. ;-)
Lakesailor
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They only invented the word.
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They only invented the word.
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Clive_Rigden
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Isn't the description, "sailing boat"? I understood that, "sail boat" is one of those frightful Americanisms which seem to be creeping in with increasing monotony; rather like, "train station" instead of, "railway sation".
Incidentally, surely a craft wearing the red ensign is a boat, ship or vessel, whereas, with the exception of naval and auxiliary ships, one wearing a white or blue ensign is a yacht. Seems simple enough to me.
Incidentally, surely a craft wearing the red ensign is a boat, ship or vessel, whereas, with the exception of naval and auxiliary ships, one wearing a white or blue ensign is a yacht. Seems simple enough to me.
Lakesailor
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Surely it merely describes the motive power. We don't say "motoring boat" so why should we have to say "sailing boat"?
The fact that the Americans have chosen to use a similar term to us dosen't mean it has come from America. On that basis our language would become cast in stone and not be able to grow and evolve.
The fact that the Americans have chosen to use a similar term to us dosen't mean it has come from America. On that basis our language would become cast in stone and not be able to grow and evolve.
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