Has the RNLI lost the plot?

[jonjo]

For example, jonjo has now been asked three times how many LB launches he has been involved with, and how many times he's seen the SLRS. Defeaning silence on both.

How many Boeing 747s have you landed at Heathrow?

Zero I assume but that does not prevent you having a strong opinion about NATS (the UK air traffic control operation).

How many years have you served as Prime Minster of the United Kingdom. Will you be voting in the General Election next Thursday?

How many years have you worked at the Fareham Coast Guard centre? Zero or few I assume but you still feel licenced to regularly condemn them as plonkers who do not meet your expectations.

 

[dogleg]

What matters most of all is saving lives, not whether the crew likes their boat or not. You may argue that a happy crew is an efficient crew etc etc. I now wonder if you can give a balanced opinion if that is what you think matters the most. You have demonstrated that you have lost sight of the RNLI's objective in that one statement, your heart lies in crew comfort, the quality of the boat and equipment, not in the saving of lives at sea. It can happen in corporations that they lose sight of their reason (mission in modern geek speak) for existing and focus too much on some other aspect. Which gets back to a point I made earlier, what is good enough, maybe more boats at less cost addresses their goal of saving lives at sea.

ok I will refine my comment, both crews have confidence in their boats to withstand the worst conditions, for the machinery and equipment to work under extreme pressure in order that they can save lives. I have said the RNLI constantly review coverage which is why there have been several new stations and changes to boat type in the last few years.

 

[chanelyacht]

How many Boeing 747s have you landed at Heathrow?

Zero I assume but that does not prevent you having a strong opinion about NATS (the UK air traffic control operation).

How many years have you served as Prime Minster of the United Kingdom. Will you be voting in the General Election next Thursday?

How many years have you worked at the Fareham Coast Guard centre? Zero or few I assume but you still feel licenced to regularly condemn them as plonkers who do not meet your expectations.

So much confusion displayed in one post.

NATS don't land Boeing 747s, pilots do... but I do feel qualified to talk about what I experienced in the five years working for them.

Equally, years of coordinating search and rescue does, whether you like it or not, qualify me to talk about what I hear and see from the new NMOC.

Anyway, thanks for confirming you've never seen SLRS or been on a lifeboat.

 

[Bru]

Apologies for not quoting what I'm replying to. Posting on mobile

I don't need to watch Sybarite's random YouTube videos of (I presume) heavy onshore seas. Anyone with half an ounce of common sense will know that there is a PRACTICAL limit to beach launching a lifeboat

Shannon will without a shadow of doubt be able to launch in much worse conditions than the Merseys she replaces. The combination of the tilt mechanism on the SLS (effectively a portable slipway), the remote release (so no need for crew on deck) and the water jet propulsion (so she can be launched in shallower water) make that certain

And a good point was mentioned in passing by an earlier poster that of necessary the SLS can be shut down and sealed up to be recovered later (I'm curious about the procedure for the driver getting back to the shore, I've no doubt there is one but I don't know what it is)

But of course there is still the possibility, indeed the likelihood, that there will be times when Shannon cannot launch. I'll bet that it would be astonishing just how bad those conditions would have to be.

The point is however, and although he's trying to shift ground without conceding his error I'm still waiting for Sybarite to fess up, that there is no dictated operational limit beyond which the decision is taken out of the hands of the lifeboat crew on scene

And now, there's an ideal wind, the sun is shining, the sky is blue and I'm looking forward to a cracking sail today

 

[jonjo]

NATS don't land Boeing 747s, pilots do... but I do feel qualified to talk about what I experienced in the five years working for them.

What a varied life you have had, if we were arguing about moon bases I would expect you to then reveal you were the last Apollo astronaut to walk on the moon.

The Government closed down your English Channel coast guard station 5? years ago. Prior to that job you claimed to be some globetrotting international maritime rescue expert, yet in another YBW debate you could not demonstrate a working familiarity with the international standards of that trade.

Lately you hinted at some sort of Coastguard relief role and now we are led to discover you have shoehorned in a career as an air traffic controller.

Let's start a new thread on Solent gastropubs then you can tell us about your Michelin Star award.

 

[chanelyacht]

What a varied life you have had, if we were arguing about moon bases I would expect you to then reveal you were the last Apollo astronaut to walk on the moon.

The Government closed down your English Channel coast guard station 5? years ago. Prior to that job you claimed to be some globetrotting international maritime rescue expert, yet in another YBW debate you could not demonstrate a working familiarity with the international standards of that trade.

Lately you hinted at some sort of Coastguard relief role and now we are led to discover you have shoehorned in a career as an air traffic controller.

Let's start a new thread on Solent gastropubs then you can tell us about your Michelin Star award.

Hmm... borderline stalking. Of course, we have yet to hear anything about your careers, a large proportion of which I assume involved asking people if they wanted fries or to go large.

I said I'd worked for NATS, it may surprise you there are a lot of people there that aren't air traffic controllers. For example, emergency planning, which is what I did. So, as usual, your assumption is wrong.

Portland did indeed close in 2014, but you assume (incorrectly) that (a) I was there until the end, and (b) that was the only station I worked. You also assume SAR coordination at MRCC level is all I did with HMCG. So, once again, you're wrong.

As for "globetrotting expert", I've never claimed that so, true to your familiar pattern, you're wrong.

None of which changes the fact that you've never been anywhere near the things which you claim enough understanding of do nothing but denigrate.

Being wrong is becoming a habit habit for you, isn't it?

 

[harry potter]

With the RNLI it's not a case of either : or.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-31609252


What a bargain...!! Compared with this anyway:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-37717735

"The new station was carved out of the cliff face in a massive engineering project - after the new lifeboat was too large to fit in the old station."

Hope the rock was saved for the Tidal Lagoon Swansea Bay. Some Hope. Much better to annihilate the Manacles Marine Conservation Zone by building a Superquarry on the Lizard, Cornwall. because that means squillions for Mark Shorrock.