Hardy Marine: how to be cr4p at the boat show

Portofino said:
Can you expand on the "engine " please
In a diplomatic way ,in so much as you will minimise a chance of a court appearance? :D
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Covered in posts way back in some detail......... Yanmar 6LYA3 is Tier II engine, no longer legal in its home market, the U.S. and production line closed down in Sept/October.

Plenty of old stock about in non EPA regulated markets, however complete poison pill for potential owner. Great start for a key new model from resurrected company.

Apologies re: reluctance to comment about the 'other' engine however between a rock and hard place as I have tendered a statement in legal proceedings and it has gone part heard, however sounded a little pompous.
 
I visited Hardy yesterday and the same thing happened to us too! My wife's bag (Prada darling) was looked after by the other Hardy lady at the desk - what's the problem with that? We would not have been happy leaving it unattended. The issue we were told is scratches from buckles and I suppose this is a privately owned boat loaned for the show. I wouldn't want it damaged if I were the owner. It's a shame he didn't get to see the boat as it was seriously impressive - superb joinery and good to see Hardy moving forward on interior design.
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
So we were at the London boat show this afternoon, and as commented elsewhere, it was quiet. One of boats I wanted to have a look at was the new Hardy 40DS - I was interested to see how they would resolve the contemporary trawler styling with the traditional Hardy values, and so off we went to the stand. Up the stairs, shoes off, all fine. Stepped aboard to have a look at the cockpit (cockpit seating a bit uncomfy, but bifold saloon doors v cool). Made our way into the saloon - but only got as far as looking at the saloon seating to port and the galley to stbd when a frankly unpleasantly bolshy woman appeared and refused to let us go any further - just because swmbo was carrying a handbag.

She insisted that swmbo would have to leave her handbag with the shoes etc at the carpetted area of the stand at the stern of the boat. So that's purse, phone, ipad, keys etc, not to mention the bag itself which was not a bargain (I should know, I paid for it). There's no chance we're leaving that anywhere. But no, this woman would not have it.

So - that was that, end of viewing. Unfortunately the only thing I can suggest is that you avoid the Hardy stand, unless you're prepared to be lectured by some know-it-all broker who clearly has no clue at all how to qualify prospects. Pathetic.
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Clearly ridiculous.#
Gald to hear they were ok with your man bag, though ;)
 
Garold said:
Bag envy.

Makes me smile thinking that it may have prevented a boat sale.

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Hmmm... I think she knew Jimmy was a tyre kicker just by his appearance. He sold his P42 to get a faster boat, so a Hardy? Not sure he's ready for pipe and slippers yet.

Here's an old fav' piccy of Jimmy on his Flybridge. (Note, No Handbag):excitement:

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RogerRat said:
Hmmm... I think she knew Jimmy was a tyre kicker just by his appearance. He sold his P42 to get a faster boat, so a Hardy? Not sure he's ready for pipe and slippers yet.
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Nah, they must have seen me arrive, in my pickup truck. I must remember to take the EC120 instead next time I want to look at a Hardy.
 
Are you sure it wasn't the gimp mask that put her off?

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Just for Jimmy (and anyone else who was refused entry)

Just for Jimmy (and anyone else who was refused entry) , I have been on google images and post the first three photos that came up :encouragement:

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Perhaps this is a silly question, but is it usual for access to the more expensive boats to be restricted at boat shows?

We were considering visiting the LIBS put primarily because we want to enjoy looking around boats that we're not in a financial position to buy at present. Naturally if there will be gatekeepers keeping out the riff raff then we might avoid the trip!
 
ragnar said:
Perhaps this is a silly question, but is it usual for access to the more expensive boats to be restricted at boat shows?

We were considering visiting the LIBS put primarily because we want to enjoy looking around boats that we're not in a financial position to buy at present. Naturally if there will be gatekeepers keeping out the riff raff then we might avoid the trip!
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In short, no it isn't. Fairline used to have a fence and guards that demanded registration before viewing but they still let everyone on who wasn't put off. Judging by reports on here they have relaxed their approach and getting aboard isn't difficult. Sunseeker have always welcomed the masses and I have never found Princess a problem either. The smaller builders/brands have never been an issue and the experience that Jimmy had with Hardy was probably a bit unfortunate. That said the can be some disdainful sales people but it is usually more about them as an individual as opposed to being a general issue or policy.
 
ragnar said:
Perhaps this is a silly question, but is it usual for access to the more expensive boats to be restricted at boat shows?

We were considering visiting the LIBS put primarily because we want to enjoy looking around boats that we're not in a financial position to buy at present. Naturally if there will be gatekeepers keeping out the riff raff then we might avoid the trip!
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No problem at all. Just register, give the desk your name , addr and email, candidly say you are only browsing and interested in boats but not buying this year, and then (after a short line if the boat is busy) walk on a £3m Princess, Fairline or Sunseeker. I hope you have a nice time!
 
Had an unfortunate incident with a girl on one of the stands at Southampton just gone. I was happily nosing around one of their boats and when Chris tried to join me, she refused him entry. Bit of a mistake to say the least as he holds the purse strings. She then made it worse by telling me it was his loss as Chris just walked away. I corrected her on that one tho as I too walked away. Silly girl but I have to say she was not typical of the other reps of that brand so I hold no grudge (Chris still not impressed tho).
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I really don't like snooty or judgemental type attitude by sales people either! Funny, since I was a young teenager (maybe even younger) I've been pretty instrumental in boat and car purchase decisions my father made. Varying treatment of me by different sales types of the years has certainly swayed decisions as to what dealers to go with etc. Not forgotten either! The dreaming boy could well turn into a future customer. Or not in the case of Hardy perhaps.

Is it perhaps more and Anglo thing (I'm including Ireland here), I remember when I was 19 rocking up to bobby vans restaurant downtown NYC and not in proper attire for the occasion...there was no issue and I certainly didn't feel the waiter was judging me or my two teenage friends.
 
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It is not just boat show salesmen.
About thirty years ago a Very Important client in Hong Kong told me of an incident when he was a youngish man. The head of the family despatched him to London to sort out an order for some Rolls Royces for their hotel business. Previously they had had two or three at a time, then switched to US cars, now they wanted eight new identical rollers. So young Michael flew to London and toddled off to the West End car showroom in question. It was raining, so he wore a mackintosh, and he is not a large person, so I imagine he cut a slightly undistinguished figure. Clearly the salesman thought so, because when Michael asked for prices, deliveries for eight identical new rollers, he was unceremoniously shown the door.
After a long trek to find a phone, one call was made TO uncle in Hong Kong, a second was made BY uncle in Hong Kong, and the showroom doors were opened and the metaphorical red carpet rolled out. One imagines the salesman probably got his marching orders!

PS The rollers were actually pretty impractical as hotel airport cars. Their boot/trunk was so small that the hotel took to running a little van behind each roller, just to carry the luggage.
 
Resolution said:
It is not just boat show salesmen.
About thirty years ago a Very Important client in Hong Kong told me of an incident when he was a youngish man. The head of the family despatched him to London to sort out an order for some Rolls Royces for their hotel business. Previously they had had two or three at a time, then switched to US cars, now they wanted eight new identical rollers. So young Michael flew to London and toddled off to the West End car showroom in question. It was raining, so he wore a mackintosh, and he is not a large person, so I imagine he cut a slightly undistinguished figure. Clearly the salesman thought so, because when Michael asked for prices, deliveries for eight identical new rollers, he was unceremoniously shown the door.
After a long trek to find a phone, one call was made TO uncle in Hong Kong, a second was made BY uncle in Hong Kong, and the showroom doors were opened and the metaphorical red carpet rolled out. One imagines the salesman probably got his marching orders!

PS The rollers were actually pretty impractical as hotel airport cars. Their boot/trunk was so small that the hotel took to running a little van behind each roller, just to carry the luggage.
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Current Phantom trunk designed around Wag std LV mega case size.
 
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