alanporter
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..............replacing a Volvo engine with any other brand.
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Aeolus_IV
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Have you something you wish to share with the great unwashed public?
For whats it's worth - I know exactly what you mean.
Regards, Jeff.
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For whats it's worth - I know exactly what you mean.
Regards, Jeff.
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RocquaineBay
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To exceed your expectations!
Mike
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Mike
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Koeketiene
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Hear, hear!
Did the same thing 6 months ago - it's like owning a new boat.
Quiet, doesn't stink to high heaven, more economical, cheaper parts...
Should have done it years ago
<hr width=100% size=1>Experience is a good teacher, but she sends in terrific bills.
Did the same thing 6 months ago - it's like owning a new boat.
Quiet, doesn't stink to high heaven, more economical, cheaper parts...
Should have done it years ago
<hr width=100% size=1>Experience is a good teacher, but she sends in terrific bills.
rich
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But they don't make 4108s anymore......
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andy_wilson
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I always puzzle when people post comments like that.
Occasionally someone here will admit to the fact that genuine consumables for their Beta / Bukh / Yanmar /Brand X are extortionate.
Occasionally someone will admit that the marinised lump that uses cheap oil filters needs a new heat exhanger making at huge cost 'cos they were never manufactured en-masse.
Rarely does someone post to say that the Volvo engine they have is 15 years old, with good maintenance has never missed a beat, and when something goes wrong, the parts are sat on a shelf waiting to be collected, AND if current form is anything to go by, will still be available in 15 more years.
'Cept me.
Hope your new brand has a dealer network that covers just about every boating venue you are likely to find yourself in now and in the decades ahead.... if it lasts that long of course.
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Occasionally someone here will admit to the fact that genuine consumables for their Beta / Bukh / Yanmar /Brand X are extortionate.
Occasionally someone will admit that the marinised lump that uses cheap oil filters needs a new heat exhanger making at huge cost 'cos they were never manufactured en-masse.
Rarely does someone post to say that the Volvo engine they have is 15 years old, with good maintenance has never missed a beat, and when something goes wrong, the parts are sat on a shelf waiting to be collected, AND if current form is anything to go by, will still be available in 15 more years.
'Cept me.
Hope your new brand has a dealer network that covers just about every boating venue you are likely to find yourself in now and in the decades ahead.... if it lasts that long of course.
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Sailfree
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I am changing the boat. Choice is limited to those that have NO Volvo bits. Personal preference yes but based on my experience. I am waiting for someone to say something in Volvo favour - now thats a challenge surely someone can manage.
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Samphire
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Hear,Hear............I can really empathise with that.
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Samphire
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Re: Dealer network
Whats the point of an extensive dealer network when all you are likely to be able to purchase is filters and if you are lucky basic service parts.In my experience anything required out of the basic stuff especially for a older 15/20 year old Volvo is only available by special order from the importers.......................
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Whats the point of an extensive dealer network when all you are likely to be able to purchase is filters and if you are lucky basic service parts.In my experience anything required out of the basic stuff especially for a older 15/20 year old Volvo is only available by special order from the importers.......................
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andy_wilson
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Realistic expectations
You are absolutely right of course. No business can sustain itself if it stocks the entire range of parts and accessories at point of need, all the time.
What IS apparent however, from reading these forums and elswhere, is that owners of ancient Volvo-Penta lumps HAVE been able to obtain substantial spare parts like cylinder heads and engine internals decades after production has ceased.
They moan like hell about the cost without considering how much THEY would charge had they bought the bits 3 decades earlier and simply added the cost of capital employed, let alone the multiplacation factors of storage, inventory management etc.
The bottom line is that just about wherever you drop the hook, you are not far from someone who knows about the V-P unit you use, has a microfich viewer of all the exploded diagrams, can identify the problem, the part, and get it for you without too much delay.
If it's something with a reputation for failure, they probably have it on the shelf. If it's a service item, they definitely have it on the shelf. If it's a gasket set needed for re-assembly after fixing something else, they usually have it on the shelf. And all usually within a short walk of the dinghy dock.
So what is wrong with that, when, compared to rest, you may enjoy that sort of back-up service at your home port, and some ports, but not almost ALL ports.
Going back to my earlier post. If a V-P unit is well installed, regularly used and properly maintained I have seen no evidence that they are any better or worse than ANY other motors in terms of reliability or cost of ownership, but the parts / service back-up probably matches ALL the rest put together.
What price that in the middle of a 3 week summer cruise when a blocked water inlet causes overheating and engine damage, or the starter motor finally packs up, or a fuel pipe fractures?
I'm not related in any way to V-P, just amazed that mine keeps on working relatively problem free and largely untouched, despite 15 years and nearly 8000 hours on the clock.
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You are absolutely right of course. No business can sustain itself if it stocks the entire range of parts and accessories at point of need, all the time.
What IS apparent however, from reading these forums and elswhere, is that owners of ancient Volvo-Penta lumps HAVE been able to obtain substantial spare parts like cylinder heads and engine internals decades after production has ceased.
They moan like hell about the cost without considering how much THEY would charge had they bought the bits 3 decades earlier and simply added the cost of capital employed, let alone the multiplacation factors of storage, inventory management etc.
The bottom line is that just about wherever you drop the hook, you are not far from someone who knows about the V-P unit you use, has a microfich viewer of all the exploded diagrams, can identify the problem, the part, and get it for you without too much delay.
If it's something with a reputation for failure, they probably have it on the shelf. If it's a service item, they definitely have it on the shelf. If it's a gasket set needed for re-assembly after fixing something else, they usually have it on the shelf. And all usually within a short walk of the dinghy dock.
So what is wrong with that, when, compared to rest, you may enjoy that sort of back-up service at your home port, and some ports, but not almost ALL ports.
Going back to my earlier post. If a V-P unit is well installed, regularly used and properly maintained I have seen no evidence that they are any better or worse than ANY other motors in terms of reliability or cost of ownership, but the parts / service back-up probably matches ALL the rest put together.
What price that in the middle of a 3 week summer cruise when a blocked water inlet causes overheating and engine damage, or the starter motor finally packs up, or a fuel pipe fractures?
I'm not related in any way to V-P, just amazed that mine keeps on working relatively problem free and largely untouched, despite 15 years and nearly 8000 hours on the clock.
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andy_wilson
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See below. nm
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