Gremlins

cameronke

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There appear to be a few gremlins in our new system.

When I click Bobs post I get it but lots of others too. Also notice that Bobs post isn't registering viewings.

Anyone else finding this?

Cameron
 
If you reply to it your reply turns up as a new post on the 'Wanted' forum.

Overall UBB seems very buggy for a piece of commercial software, and not as nice to use as the old system(which I think was phpBB based?)

- Nick
 
There sure are. I was reading Becky's thread and ended up on a totally different thread.

It also appears that people making replies are creating new threads by accident.

Perhaps the IT guys at YBW have started on the juice early........
 
Nope

The old system was PERL scripted and based on one of the very original Threads forums. It had long since become unsupported, partly because the original developer had been taken over by UBB who then ported it to PHP and partly because we had heavily modded it to do more and more things.

PERL still does a sterling job for us on some parts of ybw.com - when you have as many pages as we do porting anything across from sites that date back back to 1997 always poses its own challenges - but PHP is our chosen platform on many other sites here and so we are pleased in essence to have made the switch, even if it has kept me glued to the screen over Christmas.

We looked at phpBB but without extensive mods you wouldn't have had threaded views, for starters. Because threaded is one of the operations that generally kills the database we decided in the end to look at versions that offered threaded mode out of the box - I think the screams if we had gone to flat only mode would have been a lot louder than they currently are.

You are sadly right that there are some bugs to contend with - there's quite a long list getting addressed in a forthcoming patch, but we'll wait for it to get out of beta and also for us to run some checks in dev before inflicting it on everyone here. In addition weve been doing a little optimising of our own in order to tune performance and that process will continue as we want to roll this software out to some of our other sites.
 
Re: Nope

/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I know what you're up against! I was involved in the changeover of our maintenance management system last year, and spent 3 months sorting out "issues" where the functionality of the new system just didn't 'quite' match the old. Gave us some 'interesting' jobs - 8000 man-hours to check emergency loudspeakers, for instance!

I'm sure you and your colleagues are doing their utmost to sort it all out. It will give us some "fun" in the meantime.

Keep up the good work /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
Re: Nope

Kim, I often have trouble logging on to the forum. I've tried both mozilla and explorer and I find my browser puts up a sign saying it is downloading 'ubbthreads.php', then just sits there. I have broadband so it's not a bandwidth problem at this end. I've found the best way to get round the problem is to log on, then go back to the main page and pick out one of the clickable 'latest forum messages' (often by WeeJimi, funnily enough). But it's a workaround. I'll send you some aspirin as a late Xmas pressie.
 
Re: Nope

You are right and we are just a bunch of moaning whingers who don't like change . . .

I always use flat mode by choice, but your comment re. phpBB is of course totally correct. I've just turned dateslip on and am much happier now.


- Nick
 
Oh goodness...

...did it really sound like I tried to infer everyone is moaning? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sorry, wasn't meant that way and opinions over Christmas have been very helpful, even managed to deal with a few of the issues straight away. Change, any change, was always going to be a bit awkward.

Didn't have a lot of choice really for all sorts of reasons. I'll certainly appreciate the better admin tools that we now have as the volume of email traffic was getting to the point at times where it was getting difficult to deal with in a timely manner.

If everyone decided flat was best life would be vv simple!!
 
Re: Oh goodness...

Kim

I haven't had a moment to say a big thank you for turning off the flashing icon for large threads. I don't need the aspirin any longer so will forward to you for your message board probs (yup ours is down and I haven't had time to fix it so well done you - but then you have more ferocious users than we do !)
 
Re: Oh goodness...

Try it and see.

Flat just gives you all the posts in chronological order.

Threaded gives you the hiearcy of replies, depending on which post each user has replied to. Haven't said that very well, but it will be pretty obvious when you try it.

I find Flat quicker to scroll through - I don't need the threaded version to work out which part of the conversation is which.
 
Re: Oh goodness...

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but then you have more ferocious users than we do !)

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you wanna bet? /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
Re: Nope

I've got the same problem. Set your user preference to Collapsed instead of expanded, and Flat instead of Threaded, and you'll be able to get into the forums! (you might also need to decrease default pages and posts shown)
 
Re: Nope

Doh! I only understood about 1 word in 10 of your reply. I think you guys must live on a different planet to me. My brain hurts - think I'll go to bed till 2006!
 
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