Greece - New management !

ribrage said:
So Greece has new management - what's the future for them and what impact on us cruisers ?
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Not sure what reply your expecting- If your expecting a definitive one I don't think you will find it on a forum such as this - I suspect what is certain that there will be a lot of opinions which to my mind will be more appropriate in the lounge. But there again I may be pleasantly surprised!
 
If it results in Greece out of EU - a lot more tiresome for us cruisers.

Can see them rescinding any tax proposals, if that is what you are hoping.
 
Not quite new management just yet. With 99.8% of the vote counted SYRIZA have only 149 seats in the 300 seat parliament, so they need to either gain 2 seats in the remaining 0.2% of votes still to count(!) or find another party to support them in a coalition. It's hard to see who would join them, SYRIZA themselves have stated they would only form a coalition with the Communist Party (KKE).

KKE have stated that they won't join a coalition with anybody.

New Democracy (ND) are centre-right and unlikely to want to join SYRIZA in an anti-austerity programme.

Golden Dawn (extreme right) won't even talk to SYRIZA (or anybody else for that matter).

To Potami is a centre-right party so they're not likely to look favourably on SYRIZA or their anti-austerity programme.

Independent Greeks are a right-wing party BUT they are also anti-austerity. A coalition with SYRIZA would be ideologically unthinkable but who knows...?

PASOK are centre-left but they are most unlikely to support anti-austerity SYRIZA having been part of the recent coalition with ND (but anything is possible in Greece).

And that's it, none of the other parties have crossed the 3% threshold so the new government has to come from the above.
 
Looks like they have already done a deal with the Independent Greeks
http://www.wsj.com/articles/syriza-win-in-greek-election-sets-up-new-europe-clash-1422168982?tesla=y
'But in the early hours of Monday, even before the final votes were counted, Syriza officials said a deal had been struck with the Independent Greeks—a party that shares little common ground with Syriza except for its rejection of the austerity measures. The party, which is poised to win 13 seats in Parliament, would mean the coalition would have at least 162 seats—a comfortable governing majority in Greece’s 300-seat legislature.'
 
jordanbasset said:
Looks like they have already done a deal with the Independent Greeks
http://www.wsj.com/articles/syriza-win-in-greek-election-sets-up-new-europe-clash-1422168982?tesla=y
'But in the early hours of Monday, even before the final votes were counted, Syriza officials said a deal had been struck with the Independent Greeks—a party that shares little common ground with Syriza except for its rejection of the austerity measures. The party, which is poised to win 13 seats in Parliament, would mean the coalition would have at least 162 seats—a comfortable governing majority in Greece’s 300-seat legislature.'
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I wonder how long that will last...!
 
nickf said:
Not sure what reply your expecting- If your expecting a definitive one I don't think you will find it on a forum such as this - I suspect what is certain that there will be a lot of opinions which to my mind will be more appropriate in the lounge. But there again I may be pleasantly surprised!
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Nickf

thank you for your opinion , I doubt many live a boards on boats in Greece frequent the lounge as they are live a boards as am I , I have posted this in the "live aboard" section because if Greece legs it out of the Eu blowing raspberries at the Germans plus owing billions to everyone else I suspect the love aboard folk will feel it the most and not the uk loungers


of course I could be wrong
 
AndrewB said:
If it results in Greece out of EU - a lot more tiresome for us cruisers.

Can see them rescinding any tax proposals, if that is what you are hoping.
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Tax for me is not the issue it was more thinking of the complications imposed on entry and exit the possible loss of the euro the price increases ? That kind of thing.


Who who sailed there before it was Eurocised ?
 
ribrage said:
Tax for me is not the issue it was more thinking of the complications imposed on entry and exit the possible loss of the euro the price increases ? That kind of thing.


Who who sailed there before it was Eurocised ?
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I first sailed there 1991 ,At that time it was a pleasant backward country everything was so cheap people were delightful. Lots of shopkeepers stocked their shops by donkey ,15 years later these shopkeepers drove Porsche 4x4 BMW5s.
The place is still delightful however the people will not to be able to close Pandora`s box.
 
This is not a lounge issue. The election outcome has a fundamental effect on those of us (several) for whom Greece is our primary cruising home. I suspect that many like me find the lounge to be no more than boatyard version of Private Eye and of no use other than the forum for a rant.
What is about to happen in the months ahead is going to be a roller coaster. Not much fun when you're boating on a budget.
 
ribrage said:
Tax for me is not the issue it was more thinking of the complications imposed on entry and exit the possible loss of the euro the price increases ? That kind of thing.


Who who sailed there before it was Eurocised ?
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Me. Booze and Cigs were so cheap it was uneconomic not to use them.

I reckoned that with booze and Cigs alone I saved three pounds a day sailing round Greece compared to UK. How about that for justification.

Of course it was bad for my health. It nearly killed me but heck, I was getting my monies worth.
 
New management? As far as I know Frau Merkel is still in charge :)

The weakness of the Euro combined with lower air fares will hopefully make things a little less expensive for us. I hope that's all that changes. The consequences of an uncontrolled exit for the Greek people are too horrible to even contemplate - they've suffered enough. Personally I hope that a deal can be done.
 
It'll be interesting to see what happens. Initially at least, I suspect that there will be little impact on things outside Athens. The things I will be watching for are changes to the tax collection regime, increases in civil servant numbers and how the government deals with the external debt. It is this last that might have the biggest effect on us long term visitors to the country, as if the new mob are too flagrant in their dealings with the EU, ECB and IMF then it will lead to the exit from the Eurozone (note, not from the EU) with all the attendant chaos of a return to the drachma. Ho hum, may you live in interesting times.
Bye the bye, there are already reports of significant capital flight from Greek banks......
 
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