Good news and bad news

Becky

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Good news and bad news

I sailed Cornish Maid from Dell Quay to Haslar today in a fraction over two hours, which I thought wasn't bad. Had to hang around for some ships and then my son and daughter-in-law were fiddling around getting the fenders right, which took some time, but the boat sailed like a dream.
That was the good news.

The log has now packed up. Having had the boat out of the water for 2 weeks, and checked the free running of the paddle impeller, I still have no reading of speed. This was the case when we took the boat to Dell Quay, and we had assumed that the impeller was choked with Gosport weed. But this wasn't the case at all.
This is the bad news.

We bought Navman log, depth and the wind instrument (speed and angle). We have had FOUR depth gauges, two wind instruments, and now we will have to replace the log. Makes you want to ditch the lot and buy something decent.

BUT what IS something decent?

I feel a rant coming on!

When we go to the SIBS, we will also be visiting the Sea Recovery stand to complain about the non functioning of our water maker and the Monitor stand to complain about the rust stains down the stern of our boat from their equipment. Oh! Just remembered, they only go to LBS. Oh well, it can wait.

Can't anybody manufacture things properly these days?

In mitigation, our Mastervolt generator has been excellent, and the Monitor works like a dream too.

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Re: Good news and bad news

There is a slight chance the little magnet has come out of the paddle wheel, does it look intact, they are very small so close inspection required.

They shouldn't fall out, but they do, even out of the good ones!
 
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No, it is exactly in line. The boat has been out of the water, so we checked the 'in water' bits. Suspect the little magnet might have dropped off the impeller blade. Assume they can do that.
I can still get average speed, water temp., etc. so may be the instrument itself may be OK.

Julie, I may be blonde, but I'm not quite hopless! With the emphasis on 'quite'!
 
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If you can get "average speed" then surely the paddle wheel must be turning to give you speed from which it calcs the average. If the wheel is turning then I guess the problem must be in the control head or its settings..... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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erm but it would always have a go at calculating average speed - tho with curent speed being zero. I have had enuf of paddle wheel cack anyway - just use gps and net off the tide for stw.
 
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Becky

I wouldn't have fitted Navman kit in the first place. If I sort all your instruments, could you fix my teeth up in petersfield?

Tom (soon to be non-smoking sweet breath of the North Atlantic)
 
Rust stains form Monitor?

Tough luck with the log and depth sounder,sounds like a deep six for Navman.

Are you sure that it is from the Monitor itself and not any bolts, etc that were used to attach to the stern? We have had one for 4 years and no rust in sight. We get a bit of verdigris from the bronze(?) gear in the middle but nothing else. If it is definitely the kit itself, I'd drop them a line they are very happy to talk about their kit of which they are justly proud and I'd be surprised if they were not as horrified as you.

I agree that it is a smashing piece of kit, I have spent many a watch mesmerised by the interaction of the pendulum and the wind vane.
 
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My Navman Log has packed up after a year, checked the sender all OK but no speed, average or max speded on the control head. What with the Navman VHF now only working intermittently I need to send the whole lot back for replament!

I thought that Navman was meant to be a good make, but they seem to come up again and again on the forum with problems. Anyone had any experience of their warranty service?
 
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Seems to be a few peeps have had trouble with Navman kit. Correct me if I wrong but has there not been some problems with Navman DSC radios? Sorry I did not read the threads as it did not effect me.

Becky, on the point of good kit/bad kit, our current boat which is 12 years old has the original instruments. They work fine. I did have a problem earlier this year with the wind speed clock, but that was fixed by the manufacturer in a few days. I know for a fact that although my range of instruments were discontinued several years ogo, spares are still made and kept in stock.

I have had several boats with various makes of instrumentation. This is the second boat with the same make, compared with other makes they always appear to be a better quality.

Although more expensive than many, I think that they are worth paying that bit extra for. My friend who has intruments and autopilot made by another leading brand, very prominant at the boat shows, would love to have the same kit as me, as although his nav equipment is only 2 years old it is showing signs of failure.

Oh! I havent said have I? All the kit on my boat, exept for GPS ( Garmin ) is Raymarine.
 
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If you have the time to wade through some research ,google for the following:
Practical Sailor
Seven Seas Cruising Association
Both are American ,both review marine equipment regularly and neither has any particular need to curry favour with advertisers.
By the way FWIW I would wholeheartedly recommend Raymarine stuff also ,but maybe I have been lucky there .
 
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Rust streaks from a Monitor are certainly something new. I suggest that you test the bolt and any washer on it with a magnet. A microcephalic Essex "marine engineer" put a mild steel washer on the pivot bolt that holds Amoret's tiller onto the rudder stock, again producing a rusty trail to the waterline. However, it cleans off and doesn't come back once you have found the cause.
On logs, the last resort for me is my Walker Mk 3 (though paint the log spinner matt black and carry a spare - sharks are a bit prone to mistake the natural bronze for lunch).
Good sailing!
 
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Strange...

I have Navman 3100 depth/log plus 3100 wind plus 3100 multi repeater plus 5600 plotter and VHF and have not had any problems except the wind instrument giving erratic readings - After returning the MHU and the display head to Navman it turned out it was the dri-plug connector at the base of the mast - NOT supplied by Navman.

The after sales service, in my case, was faultless. Having seen many DIY installations I can well believe a comment made to me by Navman "95% of so called faults in our equipment are down to the purchaser's poor installation". Not saying Becky that you are ham-fisted but for someone to buy so much defective equipment in such a short time beggers belief. Have you thought of contacting Navman regarding your problem or are you content to badmouth them on a public forum?

Go on, put the dummy back in for a few minutes and phone Navman directly NOT the supplier but Navman themselves. You might be pleasantly surprised at their response.
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