Good match

[Sybarite]

Welll done France and hard luck England - it was close at the end.

And also well done Ireland, second place and the Triple Crown. We've waited a long time for that.

John

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[kindredspirit]

It's the only game that gets me passionately involved when I see it on tele.

I feel like jumping up out of my chair and getting stuck in myself.

Oh. well! Dreams now.

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[Twister_Ken]

4th choice number 10

Remember England played this match with its fourth choice standoff
1. Wilko
2. Charlie Hodgson
3. Larry Grayson
4. Ollie Barklay

I'm sure Wilko wouldn't have missed that pernalty in the first 5 minutes, nor the conversion of Cohen's try. Mmmm, 5 more points and an English victory.

Having said all that, I think the French deserved it - they certainly wanted it more. Well done. Allez les bleus.

And who could blame England for taking the rest of the season easy after November's triumph?

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[ParaHandy]

Larry Grayson ...

... you sure? thought he was a comedian .. 1981 presenter of generation game ... they must be a bit short of talent if choosing such aged crooners?

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[Twister_Ken]

Re: Larry Grayson ...

Larry Grayson, aka Paul, sometime Northampton fly-half.

Also like Dallaglio's nickname for the French backrow player, Harry Ordinary. Shame Harry had the last laugh.

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[Sybarite]

Re: 4th choice number 10

Interesting question. How many matches would England have won without Wilkinson's kicking ability?

John

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[Twister_Ken]

Wilko\'s boot

How many matches would England have won without Wilkinson's kicking ability?

Far fewer.

But in 2002 when England beat S. Africa 53-3 England used 4 kickers successfully, because of injuries and subs. Wilko, Matt Dawson, Andy Gomarsall and Tim Stimpson.

Dunno if that's a record?

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[ParaHandy]

ode by Wilko ...

fly-half laureate, Sir J Wilko of THAT drop goal, salutes the amazing talents of english poetry hero Andrew 'fray bentos in' Motion ...

Andy, the power of your verse,
is enough to make all of us curse,
it's such terrible doggerel,
it should be written on bog roll,
it honestly couldn't get much worse!

a joke:
"English Rugby Team Loses Shock" T Blair: I've never heard of them in my life
"England Cricket Team Wins Shock" T Blair: I've always liked cricket


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[BobE]

Sorry folks as a member of an island race I just HATE losing...'nuff said.

Bob E.. (without the cheers)

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[Sybarite]

As a member of an even smaller island race (about 1/10th) I understand you completely...

John

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[Sybarite]

<< island race >>

I take it this means that you see yourself as British rather than English?

As a member of an even smaller island race (about 1/10th) I understand you completely...

John

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[BobE]

Well I certainly used to think so..
My mother was ( Gawd Bless her ) a rabid Scotswoman and when the old man ( Gawd Bless him ) was off at the crusade 39/44. She brought me up to wear a kilt on Sundays. Made me a member of the Kirk ( C of S ) etc.
I remember in the 30s not being able to read anything other that the Bible on Sundays.. and so on.

Then the Old Man came home at the end of the war .. I was 12 and cheering maadly for Scotland at Murrayfield.... I was taken quietly to one side and informed in perfect English that I was English... Quite a shock.!!

What now annoys me is the break up of the UK. I firmly believe that if the other nations S W & NI want to go their own way then they of course can do so. But then I want English men in the English Parliament, English accents on our media programmes.. Brown et al can by all means be members of their own assemblies, but for goodness sake let's do something for the English in England for a change.

I guess Politics are taboo on this forum and I'll get castigatedfor this..

Yesterday we got, ( I guess everyone in the area did) a letter from Howard asking us to join his party and give them a min of £15..
In the same post we got a notice from the pension mob saying that we might be eligable for a benefit... and if we had any queries we could phone a number... and IF WE COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH A TRANSLATOR WAS AVAILABLE!!!
If they don't even speak our language how on earth can they qualify for benefits?
Who is paying for the bl!"£y translator?
I've paid into all the tax pots all my working life.

So I'm a Rabid Englishman from England and proud of it..

There you go hit me if you wish...

Cheers and more importantly may all your apparent winds in 2004 be just aft the beam !! Bob E...


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