pvb
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Don't misquote me. I didn't say that.
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Don't misquote me. I didn't say that.
Gary Fox
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If one end of the pipe is joined to the cooker, a high-pressure pipe isn't needed. The pressure has already been reduced by the regulator.
Assuming a gimballed cooker, there are two common choices of flexible pipe to allow movement: You can use the rubbery orange gas pipe, which is date stamped, available from any boat or caravan shop, and attached with hose clips;
or flexible armoured pipe, available from plumbing suppliers like BES, about £15. The latter needs the right end fittings to screw onto, you can't just use hose clips.
(Using 'high pressure' flexible pipe for the swinging cooker would not be safer, it isn't designed for so much movement. The fittings wouldn't match anyway. )
Assuming a gimballed cooker, there are two common choices of flexible pipe to allow movement: You can use the rubbery orange gas pipe, which is date stamped, available from any boat or caravan shop, and attached with hose clips;
or flexible armoured pipe, available from plumbing suppliers like BES, about £15. The latter needs the right end fittings to screw onto, you can't just use hose clips.
(Using 'high pressure' flexible pipe for the swinging cooker would not be safer, it isn't designed for so much movement. The fittings wouldn't match anyway. )
Gary Fox
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You probably don't need to change the end fitting, just buy a hose which fits it.
cueball
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Yes I think this is the best bet, I have the new end fitting, I will take it to the hose supplier and buy new hose and get them to fit the end fitting
Concerto
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There is no legal reason to have the gas system on a boat on tidal waters have a Gas Safe certificate. If on inland waterways, you have to comply with thier regulations which do require certification.
Fitting an orange flexible hose is simple. As already mentioned you use jubilee clips and ensure there is no strain on the hose have a loop of hose 6 inches longer than the minimum. The only additional advice is to check for leaks. At every joint in your system, use a water with washing up liquid solution, and if there is a leak it will show as bubbles. Do not forget to also change the hose from the regulator. Orange hoses should be changed at 5 years after manufacture. The last time I bought a short length it was under £10, so cheap to keep your system safe.
Fitting an orange flexible hose is simple. As already mentioned you use jubilee clips and ensure there is no strain on the hose have a loop of hose 6 inches longer than the minimum. The only additional advice is to check for leaks. At every joint in your system, use a water with washing up liquid solution, and if there is a leak it will show as bubbles. Do not forget to also change the hose from the regulator. Orange hoses should be changed at 5 years after manufacture. The last time I bought a short length it was under £10, so cheap to keep your system safe.
ratbag
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I find it strange that people would not dream of messing with mains gas but find it totally acceptable to mess with bottled gas that has twice the pressure and no cut out , on a plastic boat
pvb
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How do you know they wouldn't connect a cooker at home? Most marine regulators provide gas at 30mbar pressure; domestic mains gas is 20mbar pressure.
LPG on boats is quite safe as long as people are vaguely sensible, follow instructions and take appropriate care.
penberth3
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It would be interesting to know the figures, but gas must be the main cause of boat fires and explosions. There's also CO poisoning which causes a lot of fatalities - all avoidable.
penberth3
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You're a making a lot of dangerous assumptions there.
pvb
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You're probably right in this country, but how many "boat fires and explosions" are there? They're by no means common, in relation to the number of boats.
pvb
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I'm making no assumptions at all, my comment was a statement based on fact.
Gary Fox
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I doubt it is gas, probably electrical and machinery/fuel.
pvb
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In this country, gas is the main cause of explosions, because boats generally don't use petrol. In the US, it's a different story.
Gary Fox
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Well look at it another way... the vast majority of boating mishaps have no connection to gas, but most boats have LPG installations and many are DIY installations.
Gary Fox
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The last boat/LPG mishap I heard about was a teenage boy who got horribly burned; he was in the habit of sneaking onto dad's yacht in the boatyard, pulling the pipe off the cooker, and inhaling the gas for fun
sailorman
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Tgst plumber will nit lp f certified