Gas cooker fittings

[Bav34]

What fitting would you expect to go on this straight pipe on the back of my new cooker?

NEW



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Have you seen this type of fitting before?

Are they available?


OLD


by Twenty Seventeen, on Flickr

Thanks in advance as usual and please no lectures on gas safety.

I know. :encouragement:

 

[michael_w]

Probably an 8mm or 5/16" compression Fulham nozzle.

 

[Bav34]

Thanks Michael, could you give me the answer broken down, i.e. nut, olive, "thing" etc.

What attaches what you suggest to the pipe. Thanks.

 

[matthewriches]

Cant see from the pic but is it a female thread or something or just a straight pipe? I'd also say a Fulham nozzle with either compression fitting or thread on the other end??

 

[Bav34]

Straight pipe.

Sorry, still don’t understand.

I have looked up a Fulham nozzle:

https://gasproducts.co.uk/gas-fitti...rs9KjmbJqwvMuoTrr4V8xGqXRJ8U-wO4aAk76EALw_wcB

Does this somehow clamp onto the pipe from the cooker and then get pushed into the flexible gas pipe?

And by “other end” how does what you suggest fit to the female of what you can see ... it looks like a bullet?

Sorry to be so dim but if I understood I wouldn’t be asking :nonchalance:

 

[matthewriches]

(starts lecture on gas safety).... its worrying that you're asking these questions and I would strongly advise you get a gas bloke in.... (ends lecture on gas safety).

So you need to measure the OD of your pipe and find a compression to Fulham gas nozzle to match your gas hose. That will then be the flexi joint to I guess another Fulham nozzle on an isolator or manifold on your boat.

 

[Bav34]

Thanks for the (unnecessary) lecture.

I don’t know why I bothered to say don’t bother..

I have a new oven and an existing gas outlet inside the boat. The existing flexible pipe is 65mm in length.

Have a guess how much I have been quoted by our local guy to make the connection.

 

[Yellow Ballad]

My setup is one of these in the cooker (size to suit your cooker) you can get 90 degree ones which might be better for yours.

https://www.asap-supplies.com/imper...ud-coupling-union-1-4-bsp-to-5-16-compression

Then one of these but braided

https://www.asap-supplies.com/pre-made-fuel-hose-302823

Into a compression fitting onto the copper pipework.

I don't recognise your old cooker flitting sorry.

 

[Bav34]

Thanks YB.

So a hose with fittings could be assembled for say £30

I wonder what the £190 labour charge might involve!

 

[dslittle]

Have a guess how much I have been quoted by our local guy to make the connection.

Think yourself lucky(!) you managed to get a quote - the last couple of times I've tried to get someone to connect a solenoid for me neither even bothered to turn up...

 

[Bav34]

Think yourself lucky(!) you managed to get a quote - the last couple of times I've tried to get someone to connect a solenoid for me neither even bothered to turn up...

Don’t get me started on the marine trade.

What is it that makes them so precious that they think that vat is some sort of incidental cost not to be mentioned in a quote?

Three different jobs, three quotes, three further queries from asking does that include vat?

Oh no, that’s plus vat!

 

[VicS]

Straight pipe.

Sorry, still don’t understand.

I have looked up a Fulham nozzle:

https://gasproducts.co.uk/gas-fitti...rs9KjmbJqwvMuoTrr4V8xGqXRJ8U-wO4aAk76EALw_wcB

Does this somehow clamp onto the pipe from the cooker and then get pushed into the flexible gas pipe?

And by “other end” how does what you suggest fit to the female of what you can see ... it looks like a bullet?

Sorry to be so dim but if I understood I wouldn’t be asking :nonchalance:

Yes that has a compression fitting.... a nut and an olive ...... to fit it to the connection on your cooker. The Fulham nozzle is what you need if you going to connect to the supply with ordinary low pressure LPG hose ( Black hose to BS 3212:1991 Type 1.)

If however you are using the more readily available orange high pressure hose (orange high pressure hose to BS 3212:1991 Type 2) you may find that a similar high pressure nozzle ( barbed rather than ribbed) will be easier to fit the hose onto ...... but it will go onto the Fulham nozzle

My setup is one of these in the cooker (size to suit your cooker) you can get 90 degree ones which might be better for yours.

https://www.asap-supplies.com/imper...ud-coupling-union-1-4-bsp-to-5-16-compression

Then one of these but braided

https://www.asap-supplies.com/pre-made-fuel-hose-302823

Into a compression fitting onto the copper pipework.

I don't recognise your old cooker flitting sorry.

NO NO NO That is ISO 7840 Fuel Hose for petrol or diesel. The OP has a GAS cooker

 

[prv]

Don’t get me started on the marine trade.

What is it that makes them so precious that they think that vat is some sort of incidental cost not to be mentioned in a quote?

Nothing - it's fairly common for all sorts of trades, including (to take two random recent examples) the diesel injection specialists I took my car to, and my mate who rigs up stage holograms, lasers, and projection of video onto huge sprays of water.

Pete

 

[Tranona]

Thanks YB.

So a hose with fittings could be assembled for say £30

I wonder what the £190 labour charge might involve!

That is roughly what i paid to have the whole system from the bottle replaced and the new cooker installed and tested on my old 37! I did have to take all the trim off to access the old pipes and fittings and then replace it, but not difficult.

Seriously suggest you do the same and have the whole lot replaced as the fittings used by Bavaria are rubbish.

 

[sailaboutvic]

If you don't have a pressure gauge , soppy water around the fitting to check for leaks , but worth buying a gauge .

 

[Yellow Ballad]

NO NO NO That is ISO 7840 Fuel Hose for petrol or diesel. The OP has a GAS cooker

Sorry my bad, I just serched on the website and those came up. This is what I bought..

http://www.marinesuperstore.com/gas-equipment/hose/aquafax-braided-gas-hose-bs3212-2

 

[Minchsailor]

If you don't have a pressure gauge , soppy water around the fitting to check for leaks , but worth buying a gauge .

I think that might be 'soapy' water!.

But you can make a simple manometer (pressure gauge) for leak testing from a length of plastic tubing and coloured water.

 

[Graham_Wright]

I think that might be 'soapy' water!.

But you can make a simple manometer (pressure gauge) for leak testing from a length of plastic tubing and coloured water.

Bubble testers are wonderful!

On my camper, the nose said "leak". The soapy (/soppy) said no leak but the bubble tester agreed with the nose.

Camper van installations are far less critical than those on boats (especially Transits which develop numerous drain holes over their lives).

 

[Little Dorrit]

Bubble testers are wonderful!

On my camper, the nose said "leak". The soapy (/soppy) said no leak but the bubble tester agreed with the nose.

Camper van installations are far less critical than those on boats (especially Transits which develop numerous drain holes over their lives).

I have just purchased a Bubble tester but I am struggling to find a place where I can easily see it, so I am pondering whether to bother at all. It seems pointless to position it somehwere where it's difficult to view. Everywhere I thought of putting it would also be a place where it could get knocked or damaged. It's would difficult to see it if it was in the gas locker although I am coming to think that might be the best place for it, in line on the flexible hose between the fulham nozzle and the bottle.

 

[sailaboutvic]

Moving on a step ,
I wound how it stands with insurance should you need to claim ? I always done mind ,