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I was looking for bluetooth GPS for Ipad to work Navionics app. I am undecided between Bad Elf Pro and Garmin Glo. Any help from users in deciding appreciated. According to Bad Elf site it works fine with a Navionics but can't find anything about if Garmin Glo works or not. Thank you. Neil
 
Bridgeman said:
I was looking for bluetooth GPS for Ipad to work Navionics app. I am undecided between Bad Elf Pro and Garmin Glo. Any help from users in deciding appreciated. According to Bad Elf site it works fine with a Navionics but can't find anything about if Garmin Glo works or not. Thank you. Neil
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Looks like no one as tried the Garmin Glo. I have ordered one anyway and should get it next week. I will post how/if it works with Navionics app on Ipad once it arrives.
Neil
 
Hi there Bridgeman
I had the same problem and I just purchased a gns2000 Bluetooth reciever . Tried it out today with my iPad and navonics app and it works a treat . Will be interested to hear how you get on with the garmin
Regards J
 
Hi Lady Rachel. Glad you found solution. I will post results next week. Amazon say Wednesday delivery. Guy on US site says the Garmin Glo works with Navionics on Ipad, so fingers crossed. Neil.
 
I would not bother with an external GPS antenna. All iPads which have the Sim card have the GPS built-in. I use mine on the boat and also in the business jet at high-altitude without the need for any external GPS antenna .....ever!

Good luck
 
Hi Monique. Mine is a wifi only Ipad with no GPS. I understand the SIM card ones are only assisted GPS which may not be as accurate at times. Also if the mobile signal fails the GPS ability fails. May be totally wrong but that is what I have been told. Brgds Neil
 
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Hi Monique. Mine is a wifi only Ipad with no GPS. I understand the SIM card ones are only assisted GPS which may not be as accurate at times. Also if the mobile signal fails the GPS ability fails. May be totally wrong but that is what I have been told. Brgds Neil
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Leaving aside the underlying accuracy of the GPS subsystem (which from my experience on land only is impressively accurate but haven't tried on the water) the assisted bit is just about speeding the time to fix by getting a rough location by other means. Not sure whether the iPad uses both methods or only one but you can do this by cell tower triangulation or sniffing local WiFi networks and consulting a database to see if their location is known. Far enough out from land neither of those are going to work but I don't think that affects the accuracy of the final position. All AFAIK and assuming I've read your post correctly... Others will jump in I'm sure with more definitive info... I don't know if there's a hardware issue which would mean a hardware failure on the phone side would knobble the GPS...
 
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Also if the mobile signal fails the GPS ability fails. May be totally wrong but that is what I have been told. Brgds Neil
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Hello Neil, you are in error in regards to the mobile signal failure. With a SIM card iPad, you always have GPS available. I crossed the MED with iPad and had no issues. Furthermore the UK CAA certified the iPad to support the Jeppesen aeronautical charts and the position keeping is so good that I can taxi the aircraft in dense fog by reference to the iPad GPS signal overlaid on the airport chart. (It displays aircraft position and GPS derived heading) I would not be concerned... esp if you have another source of GPS nav. GL
 
Thank you Prhperio and Monique for your imput. I am afraid I am a magnetic compass and stream the log generation so struggle with the modern technology a bit. I do not have a sim type Ipad so cant comment on its accuracy but Monique you seem happy with it. The sites that say you should use an external GPS are the aviation selling sites so guess they may have a vested interest. They do say away from the land and at altitude it sometimes takes 20 mins to get a fix without the external GPS on sim card models. Again I cant comment on that statement. Brgds. Neil
 
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Thank you Prhperio and Monique for your imput. I am afraid I am a magnetic compass and stream the log generation so struggle with the modern technology a bit. I do not have a sim type Ipad so cant comment on its accuracy but Monique you seem happy with it. The sites that say you should use an external GPS are the aviation selling sites so guess they may have a vested interest. They do say away from the land and at altitude it sometimes takes 20 mins to get a fix without the external GPS on sim card models. Again I cant comment on that statement. Brgds. Neil
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Just to clarify... the iPads that don't have a SIM (ie no cellular connectivity) also lack the GPS. Although if you go into the Apple Maps application they'll show you a position, it's not based on GPS so they would definitely need an external GPS for navigation.

BTW IMHO nothing wrong with the traditional methods, I love all the tech kit but you still can't beat browsing a 'proper' paper chart for an enjoyable way to spend a bit of time, apart from as a backup if everything else goes pear shaped :-)
 
Thanks prhperio. That's my understanding of it. My Ipad is only wifi so need the external GPS. On the aviation sites the pilots there have the External GPS on SIM card models also for piece of mind I guess as they say they have lost signal from internal GPS at times. After saying that Monique doesn't appear to have had that problem. I am fascinated with these gadgets but struggle to keep up. It's not that long ago we only had the sextant on ocean passages. I will post results of the Garmin Glo when it arrives this week. RMP. Regds Neil
 
On our dive boat we have exactly the set up you are planning on using. The Garmin works fine with Navionics but is strictly speaking not necessary, the Ipad GPS works just fine, and ours is also the wifi only. Like you, we decided on belt and braces, just in case..............
 
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............. The sites that say you should use an external GPS are the aviation selling sites so guess they may have a vested interest. They do say away from the land and at altitude it sometimes takes 20 mins to get a fix without the external GPS on sim card models. Again I cant comment on that statement. Brgds. Neil
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We have 3 iPads aboard the aircraft (to ensure redundancy, 2 in operation and 1 on standby) None have an external GPS though we have 2 BadElf just in case.... We never had to use them. All data has been accurate for hundreds of flight hours including the altitude readout from the GPS. We are conscious that the batteries only last about 12 hours in constant use. So we turn off the screens on 2 units simultaneously to save power, then resurrect one and turn off the one which was operating. We also have 2 Yoobao units to recharge the units if needed.

All this kit is to UK CAA standards.

Enjoy and don't worry esp if you have a good plotter with its GPS own antenna. Your earlier comment about being a log and compass man will always be of use; it provides a LAR aspect to shipborne navigation.







LAR = Looks about Right. :-)
 
You seem to have everything covered Monique. Very interesting to here about CAA aviation navigation using Ipads. I googled it after you mentioned the CAA. Do you still have to use celestial navigation in examinations for a pilots licence? I have two independent Raymarine plotters with Navionics along with all the stone age gear. The Ipad side is only for backup.
Brgds
Neil
 
Bridgeman said:
You seem to have everything covered Monique. Very interesting to here about CAA aviation navigation using Ipads. I googled it after you mentioned the CAA. Do you still have to use celestial navigation in examinations for a pilots licence? I have two independent Raymarine plotters with Navionics along with all the stone age gear. The Ipad side is only for backup.
Brgds
Neil
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I did celestial in real anger.... decades ago! It still works. Given your knowledge of the "old school" stuff, you are the last one I'd be worried about when it comes to nav skills..... if it makes sense its probably correct. Enjoy!!!
 
Hi Monique. I didn't mean you personally, sorry. I was just interested if celestial nav was still a subject that modern day pilots needed to be taught for their licences. Take care and thanks again.
Brgds
Neil
 
Only some basic celestial theory is taught now. To be honest, with the electronic systems available now, celestial is somewhat redundant :-)
 
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