Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engines?

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swmbo and I are booked on a RYA diesel course in October, just had my first service done and in warranty for 2 years so no chance of playing with it for some time yet I guess, and by then we will be in another warranty period again with a new boat, boring really /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I always fancied getting a bit of oil on my hands to see what it was like /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Well off to bed got a very boaty weekend coming up /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Not so sure about the rain for our rally to West India Dock on Saturday, but the floating chinky restaurant and Tohatsu beer will ensure a good nights kip.

Thank you all so much for voting, this poll is truly amazing and I am sure of interest to all of us.

Thanks.
 
Depends again on the service engineer. Escape from the clutches of Volvo, find a good independant engineer (they are around), and you can again, halve that figure. Therefore you can service two engines for the price of one!! (OK, I know that means you can service just one engine cheaper that way as well). Obviously, the bigger the engine, the more the cost of service/fuel/repairs/parts.
 
having a 25ft hard top single diesel boat I suppose I have already voted.............

re fuel at £1 pl I am fortunate to have a big enough range that instead of filling up in the UK and going out and back to the CIs I will fill up in the CIs or Cherbourg and go the other way - currently it's been cheaper in the UK on account than St PP or Braye.
 
This is why we held back on new engines which installed would have been around the 35/40k mark, we instead bought a pair of what we already have for £750.00 complete for use as spares.
At present we cruise mainly at about 10 knots on two engines or about 7/8 on one. The old bus will reach 17/18 knots alright but does use loads of fuel if pushed (at slow cruise it uses 10 litres per engine per hour).
If we lose the Red Diesel we will stick to what we have.
Thats a whole 5 hours to Burnham Pete! However if the weather is reasonable we can have dinner, drinks etc on the way which we couldn't on our faster boat.
 
Very unlikely, being in the channel I can at least duck into ALderney if weather gets bad or need supplies, without the VAT man impounding my vessel.
 
The what would you do if diesel goes to £1 a litre is interesting. The ones that would sell up and leave would be no loss as they can't be that committed to boating, it is the easy way out unless of course you are at the bottom end and can't downsize anymore. I guess if things are that tight they would not be spending money in the industry anyway. I see a lot of overpriced services that will either have to give a far better service for the money or reduce their prices, because boaters in general only have a certain budget to play with, it's a matter of re assessing where the expenditure goes. For example the cheaper mooring fees in the Medway would allow Solent boaters to re locate and even be in profit, it wouldn't take long to build up the Costa del Mudway into an elite boaters paradise :-)
 
Pete,

I must have a crystal ball as I have already gone this way! Seriously I was the biggest Petrol Head in the world but eventually I came to my senses. First a Diesel Car, second a diesel Boat.

For years everyone wanted Twin Petrol and Twin Petrols held a premium. Then Petrol Reached over £1 a litre and now they are worth less than a single petrol. I figure that despite what everyone else says I think it may happen to Diesel boats which are capable of single diesel. Half the running costs, not quite half the fuel.

As for a Hard top I am now fuly sold on them. They work with a young family as it is sheltered from the wind and rain and sun alike. Life without covers is also great (well with less covers). I appreciate it is not for everyone, but for the near future there is no going back for me.

Cheeers

Paul /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Re: Future of boating after the loss of derogation, is it single engin

Well I suppose looking on the bright side the increase up here in the frozen north won't be that bad, at the moment in my area it is 69.7pence per litre so if it hits £1 that is just under 50% increase, yippeeeee I win, I win, or maybe I don't /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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If diesel prices doubled to £1 a litre what would you do, bearing in mind the market would be flooded with boats with big engines :-

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What on earth makes you think that?

"Ooohh dear, my boat is going to cost another thousand or two a year to run (probably a 10% total annual running cost increase tops), therefore I'll rush out and sell it at a huge loss instead!"

Not even vaguely likely is it? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
Well that's what the whole point of this thread is about, the nonsense the 'keep the red' brigade are on about, armagedon, great loses to the industry e.t.c.

As I said I am all for keeping it, but spouting such nonsense doesn't do anyone any good at all, look at the poll, plain and clear for all to see. Think up something that is vaguely correct instead, like the effect on the off licences with less pink champagne being bought or stuff like that. Who as you say in their right mind is going to care if red goes, the fuel is the least of your problems with the rip off industry as it is, I am sure that you could save far more than you would ever spend on fuel with an efficient industry that didn't just take the piss /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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