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So, from worrying that I might not get enough takers to make the minimum order, I have now gone to struggling to keep up with incoming messages. I've just spoken to the manufacturers and tripled the size of the order, and I already have a big waiting list beyond that. There's no point me continuing to increase the size of the initial batch, or adding to an endless reserve list, when they will soon be available on a self-service basis.

Therefore, please stop sending me new requests. I will post a new thread (hopefully end of this week or beginning of next) when the makers are ready to handle individual orders. I've let them know that there are likely to be plenty!

If you've already put in a request and been sent my bank details (or we've discussed some other arrangement), please pay up ASAP as otherwise you risk being removed in favour of someone from the reserve list. If you've changed your mind that's perfectly fine, but please let me know so I can swap in a reserve without unnecessary delay.

Thanks for your support.

Pete

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As most people know, for over a decade Haydn (user hlb) has been supplying the forum burgee. He's ready to retire now, and having got a bit carried away in a recent thread, I seem to have taken over.

For those who weren't aware, the burgee is a mark of forum membership which you can fly from your boat when out and about. It covers all the YBW forums, power and sail, but is not officially "owned" by IPC itself - it belongs to us the users. It's been around since 2002, which seems like forever in Internet time, and has been flown all over the world (and right around the world, I believe). But you can also use it just to say "hi" in Yarmouth, Cherbourg, Burnham-on-Crouch, or wherever you may be. It looks like this:

burgee.jpg


The old ones were made as a favour to Haydn by one of his mates, so we're also transitioning to a new supplier (Ensign Flags, who make the burgees for a lot of clubs). Don't worry, the "tipsy mouse" design will remain the same, but the construction of the flags will change a little, to be more like conventional polyester flag material rather than the heavyweight fabric and cotton string of the older type. The design will still be properly embroidered, not printed like cheap promotional flags that fade in the sun.

The deal is that we have to buy an initial batch of ten to cover the cost of programming the design into the embroidery machine. After that, they will be available direct from Ensign with no minimum order size. I've agreed to put up the funding for the initial batch, and will post them out once they arrive. But I need at least ten people to buy them.

For this initial batch, the preferred arrangement is to PM me with your postal address; I will respond with my bank details for you to do an online transfer. If this is a problem for any reason then we can work something else out, but that's the basic procedure. If people could also post in this thread when they order, it will help it stay visible - ta.

The cost for the initial ten is £20.70 each. I then need to post them on to you (60p for first-class post, I think it'll fit in a "Letter" sized envelope) so the total is £21.30 each. The price is likely to go up a few quid when bought singly, so getcha order in now :)

I'm aware that this comes as a bit of a fait-accompli, but I also know that Haydn has been trying to pass on the role for years with no takers, and that it's often more effective to step in and say "this is how it's going to be", provided it's done in good faith, than to discuss things endlessly with no-one taking the lead. I hope nobody minds.

Cheers,

Pete
 
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Well done, I failed this challenge last year because I was working abroad.

Most East Coast Forum people have one. I still have a new one, but I thoroughly commend them to the House.
 
Thanks for taking this on.

I often wondered what they looked like and where you could get one, but never got around to asking!

I'll have one please.

PM (about to be) sent.
 
OK, I'm already over my initial ten - thanks everyone, I was expecting to struggle to find enough!

I'm sure Ensign will be able to increase the order; I will contact them tomorrow to discuss it, but in the meantime feel free to put in further requests.

I am very aware that extending the order will require forking over more of my own money, and Haydn has always warned that unfortunately a percentage of people put in requests but fail to pay. Therefore please make sure that your transfer follows promptly (let me know if you use some minor bank that doesn't participate in the Faster Payments service). In the event that I somehow end up with more paid-up requests than available flags, I will of course refund the money in full, so there is no risk to you.

Cheers,

Pete
 
I'm aware that this comes as a bit of a fait-accompli, but I also know that Haydn has been trying to pass on the role for years with no takers, and that it's often more effective to step in and say "this is how it's going to be", provided it's done in good faith, than to discuss things endlessly with no-one taking the lead. I hope nobody minds.

I wouldnt worry about anybody minding about you saying this is how its going to be!! You have had the gumption to sort it out when nobody else has done so, and if anybody complains just tell them to 'go away' !
 
Sorry, PM inbox temporarily overwhelmed by demand :)

I've just emptied it, hope it can cope for a bit longer...

Please try again if you sent a message and got a bounce saying it was full.

Pete
 
hib had folk send him a stamped addressed envelope. that must have saved him time & effort

Not much, really, in my case. I certainly don't want to be faffing around with paper cheques and having to walk to the bank, so there's no reason for people to be sending me anything in the post. I'm copying the addresses into a file as they arrive, and I'll be able to transfer them to some suitable piece of software and print out all the envelopes with minimal effort per order. My file has the record of who has paid, which is part of what Haydn's envelope-based system did for him. We each have our ways of working, that suit us.

Pete
 
Not much, really, in my case. I certainly don't want to be faffing around with paper cheques and having to walk to the bank, so there's no reason for people to be sending me anything in the post. I'm copying the addresses into a file as they arrive, and I'll be able to transfer them to some suitable piece of software and print out all the envelopes with minimal effort per order. My file has the record of who has paid, which is part of what Haydn's envelope-based system did for him. We each have our ways of working, that suit us.

Pete
To be fair you only have to go through this once and then people can just start ordering off the website. Good effort though.
 
Well done. Time for people to start ordering them direct from Esign Flags now. What name do they have the flag filed under?

PM sent if you want to send flag name to order direct let me know...

Happy to order direct, if I was you I would add on the price of a CHEAP pint for each order, declare it as well to use all. Experience tells me that doing these things not for profit, only end up in a loss to you...

I have heard rumor on ship it can be called the CAT Captains Added Tax...

Edit: To add I will be please to have another burgee to fly, particularly after being told the club bar was shut at 1430 today. By bar staff that where in the bar (no cashing up required as all on account (that MUST be in credit)). all I wanted was a take out cold drink and crisps for lunch...

I would not be a member at all but the sailing faculties for what I need are good...
 
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Right.

Wow.

That's quite an amazing show of demand, in one short evening.

The number of requests is nudging 30, and although it's somewhat exhilarating to see the orders flooding in (shame I'm not making a profit on them!) I think over £600 is quite a scary enough figure for me to be throwing around (and is only feasible because it was payday at work yesterday!). Therefore, I am going to cap the initial order at 30.

There are still a couple of slots available, plus I am resigned to the fact that some orders may not be paid for. So you may continue to submit requests, but those over 30 will be put in a reserve queue. After a suitable pause for those in the initial 30 to cough up, any who have not done so will be removed and the corresponding number from the waiting list will be promoted.

I trust that seems fair to all concerned, and to my personal bank balance.

Cheers,

Pete
 
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