Flag Etiquette

[nonitoo]

I agree, I think it should have been your ensign. But, in the scheme of things you paid your respects, whatever you did, and remember that flag etiquette is mostly bolleaux perpetrated by blazered and grey moustached 'yot club' members.

Unless you take your ship into Santos at midnight during the '70s and are awakened the next morning by the local 'Fedelistas' fining you £100 for not observing their local day of "whatever" by dressing your ship overall.

Fair do's, I should have checked, but that is why I have a 2nd Officer and he received a right royal rocket for not being aware of it (short hand for not bothering to read the local regs properly prior to arrival).

Tom

 

[hlb]

Ah, so there's no prize then, never mind, at least I'm catching you. I'm up to 1002 already, only 12,977 to go.

Here you go Philiz.

 

[Philiz]

Here you go Philiz.

Drool, drool, limited edition burgees eh. Gizz one

 

[Major Catastrophe]

Don't let him have it Haydn, he'll break it or wear it up his trouser leg in conflict with any etiquette or indeed, decorum.

 

[Philiz]

Don't let him have it Haydn, he'll break it or wear it up his trouser leg in conflict with any etiquette or indeed, decorum.

Listen MC, don't judge everyone by your own standards, anyway, what's up my trouser leg is of no concern to you.

Do you think we might have hi-jacked this post somewhat?

Apologies to the OP, normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.

 

[TamarMike]

I'm with hlb, my staff (it's a staff haydn, not a pole) is 800mm long, so no room to half mast the 3/4 yard ensign. Beside, it's cable tied to the staff. If i wanted to attempt to be Etiquettely correct the best i could do would be to take it down completely. I dare say that'd be wrong so i may have to join the Major in the ignorant corner

My ensign is on a staff long enough and it is fixed so it could be lowered but (fortunately?) I have never been aboard on an occasion when it should be worn at half mast. I suppose I had better make sure I dash down to the boat next time a member of the Royal Family dies.


(Woops, I seem to have inadvertently strayed onto the wrong forum )

 

[hlb]

Don't let him have it Haydn, he'll break it or wear it up his trouser leg in conflict with any etiquette or indeed, decorum.

There is no fear of him having MF's noble ensign.

He could have an upside down one though, I suppose.

 

[colingr]

Talking of etiquette are there any rules about how big it should be, the ensign that is.

22ft boat. I feel I ought to have one but don't know how big it should be. I know it goes at the back.

 

[PaulGooch]

Talking of etiquette are there any rules about how big it should be, the ensign that is.

22ft boat. I feel I ought to have one but don't know how big it should be. I know it goes at the back.

Guidelines, rather than rules. 22ft boat is i believe 3/4 yard. I just fitted a new one to mine, on a 800mm flag/ensign/pole/staff/stick, at the blunt end of the roof.

 

[Keen_Ed]

Rule of thumb is 1" of fly for every 1' of boat length. So a 3/4 yard ensign would be fine.

Unless you're Danish or Dutch. In which case, it seems to be about 6" of fly for every 1' of boat.

 

[colingr]

Wonderful, I think the fact that ensigns are measured in yards says it all

 

[PaulGooch]

Wonderful, I think the fact that ensigns are measured in yards says it all

Indeed, perhaps we should remind those Johnny foreigners of that next time we visit and they want to check our diesel. Best remind them who invented GMT and the lat/lon system too, damn there eyes.

 

[tinkicker0]

I'm just glad I posted my pic with my ensign and forum burgee on the jackstaff, last week, I might have been insulted.

Fearing a faux pas, after checking the correct burgee rules, I have made (scrounged) another 10"staff and clamp (Renthal cross bar + clamp Kwacker ) to fit on me pulpit rail on the starboard side in order to fly the burgee from there. Might leave it off now, cos I want me boat to look sporty, not like a Freeman or a Seamaster club member's boat. (no offence).

Ignorant of the world unite and fly your flags with pride!

 

[Searush]

(snip)

Looks a tricky passage that Tinkicker, round the Isle of Sheppey perhaps? Or is it under the M25? Hope your thumb is getting better OK.

 

[sailorman]

Looks a tricky passage that Tinkicker, round the Isle of Sheppey perhaps? Or is it under the M25? Hope your thumb is getting better OK.

Its PRINTED

 

[tinkicker0]

Its PRINTED

The pic? Not to worry, I won't be after you for royalties

Use it to spread the word of ignoramus.

The ensign's not tho, its sewn.

 

[sailorman]

The pic? Not to worry, I won't be after you for royalties

Use it to spread the word of ignoramus.

The ensign's not tho, its sewn.

Good Man,i knew you were a man of good taste & decorum

 

[tinkicker0]

Looks a tricky passage that Tinkicker, round the Isle of Sheppey perhaps? Or is it under the M25? Hope your thumb is getting better OK.

It is a very tricky passage, just after the pic was taken, I had green water right over my waterline
A bit later on, I encountered a leviathan of the deep.

Had a few days at the boat recuperating with the thumb as was the forum consensus and had two nights aboard too.

The thumb's good enough to wield spanners again with care, tho only with poncy nitrile gloves on, so i'm cursing and swearing constantly as they get hung up on something or other.
Thought I'd ripped it all off again by not thinking and attempting the tightening of all things, a bleeding valve cap with it.
Bit more careful now.

 

[TWINSCREW]

TWINSCREW

Dear Oh Dear,Have I ruffled the feathers of the 20,294 posts man ?
A little about me to calm your nerves, age 69, started sailing in 1972 (rag & stick) from Blundellsands sailing club on Merseyside, wooden boats in those days, Wore a navy blue suit with shiny buttons and stripes and was Guard Commander at several Cenotaph services so know all about that. I belong to the Royal Naval Sailing Association and was a member of the Royal Ocean Racing Club until moving to Cornwall 20 years ago, Lifeboat crew for 11 years until I had to retire through age,I hold RYA Coastal and Yachtmaster Offshore certificates and VHF etc. and in retirement I joined the National Coastwatch Institution and am stationed at Bass Point on the Lizard, give me a wave next time you pass. I own a 33 foot twinscrew power boat which lives in Mylor Yacht Harbour near Falmouth, and cruise quite a bit.
Hope this is enough for you and will go some way to alleviate the stress you must feel when anyone disagrees with you,

 

[Major Catastrophe]

Dear Oh Dear,Have I ruffled the feathers of the 20,294 posts man ?
A little about me to calm your nerves, age 69, started sailing in 1972 (rag & stick) from Blundellsands sailing club on Merseyside, wooden boats in those days, Wore a navy blue suit with shiny buttons and stripes and was Guard Commander at several Cenotaph services so know all about that. I belong to the Royal Naval Sailing Association and was a member of the Royal Ocean Racing Club until moving to Cornwall 20 years ago, Lifeboat crew for 11 years until I had to retire through age,I hold RYA Coastal and Yachtmaster Offshore certificates and VHF etc. and in retirement I joined the National Coastwatch Institution and am stationed at Bass Point on the Lizard, give me a wave next time you pass. I own a 33 foot twinscrew power boat which lives in Mylor Yacht Harbour near Falmouth, and cruise quite a bit.
Hope this is enough for you and will go some way to alleviate the stress you must feel when anyone disagrees with you,

Thanks for eventually introducing yourself and I hope you don't blunder into a pub and start mouthing off.

At least in my 58 years I have learned some manners.

My opinion remains that civilian 'rules' on flags, ensigns and burgees is mostly nonsense.