Fitting a Sterling Alternator Regulator to a Yanmar 2GM20F

[VicS]

I suggest that you should all remember that at the start of all this was a forum member seeking advice to solve a problem. That is what this forum is for.

I further suggest that in future you all move the arguments to another forum whilst the rest of us concentrate on helping each other out.

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Perhaps then you could have posted the details of what had to be done instead of resorting to PM.

How did you know about cutting into the regulator case. Sound advice from another source or just held your breath, crossed your fingers and prayed.

 

[vyv_cox]

I suggest that you should all remember that at the start of all this was a forum member seeking advice to solve a problem. That is what this forum is for.

I further suggest that in future you all move the arguments to another forum whilst the rest of us concentrate on helping each other out.

In principle I agree with you. Until post #13 the OP was given plenty of useful advice, which it would seem helped him to solve his problem. At that point a poster offered incorrect advice, which was variously corrected by several other posters. Would you prefer the misinformation to go unchallenged?

I offer advice here on a regular basis. I hope that such advice is correct when I give it, but there are occasions when it is not. When this is pointed out I always make a point of owning up and apologising in order to maintain credibility. Seems a better approach to me.

 

[CharlesSwallow]

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Perhaps then you could have posted the details of what had to be done instead of resorting to PM.

How did you know about cutting into the regulator case. Sound advice from another source or just held your breath, crossed your fingers and prayed.***

As I stated elsewhere in this thread, I had this problem around 15 years ago. I seem to remember ringing Charles Sterling about it which is where I got the advice from but I got the job done by a marine electrics company near Bursledon Bridge due to lack of time. That guy actually left the cover loose in situ which prompted me to re-open the alternator to fit the small cable ties I mentioned. Lucky I did! He had left a 2mm drill still through the holes to hold the brushes off. Had I fitted it and run it like that the alternator would have been wrecked. "Professionals"!

I still have that drill and when I pull it out of the drill box all these years later, it's rear end sharpened to a point for the job always reminds me of that incident. The mechanic wouldn't admit to his ever having lost a drill afterwards.

*** I think I would probably have come to the same conclusion had I not contacted CS and I'm sure that a third alternative to your options of "or did you use your common savvy and experience to work out a solution yourself" would be entirely valid. A lot of people here have good deductive skills you know without having letters after their names (& therefore don't feel the need to shout them from the rooftops - see SOME personal profiles here!)

Chas

 

[CharlesSwallow]

In principle I agree with you. Until post #13 the OP was given plenty of useful advice, which it would seem helped him to solve his problem. At that point a poster offered incorrect advice, which was variously corrected by several other posters. Would you prefer the misinformation to go unchallenged?

I offer advice here on a regular basis. I hope that such advice is correct when I give it, but there are occasions when it is not. When this is pointed out I always make a point of owning up and apologising in order to maintain credibility. Seems a better approach to me.

WELL, WELL, WELL! #13 EH? Just what exactly is the error in that?

"I've seen all your so-called good advice and wouldn't rate ANY of it"

I COULD make this statement but I certainly wouldn't because I'm not bent on scoring petty points off of contributors and I NEVER resort to trying to put people down. Besides, like your assertion in para1 of this, it has no substance nor justification in fact.

Your evaluation of the current Sterling product is incorrect and I am astonished that you and Mr Mallows do nothing more than resort to personal abuse to defend it, especially since you have no personal experience of the long term use of the product and all you can do is ask us to accept your opinion from an exhaulted "academic" position you seem to have bestowed upon yourselves.

Chas

 

[Ubergeekian]

Your evaluation of the current Sterling product is incorrect...

Which one? The evaluation he actually made or the completely spurious one you made up and then attributed to him?

If the former, some proof would be nice.

If the latter, who cares?

 

[VicS]

As I stated elsewhere in this thread, I had this problem around 15 years ago. I seem to remember ringing Charles Sterling about it which is where I got the advice from but I got the job done by a marine electrics company near Bursledon Bridge due to lack of time. That guy actually left the cover loose in situ which prompted me to re-open the alternator to fit the small cable ties I mentioned. Lucky I did! He had left a 2mm drill still through the holes to hold the brushes off. Had I fitted it and run it like that the alternator would have been wrecked. "Professionals"!

I still have that drill and when I pull it out of the drill box all these years later, it's rear end sharpened to a point for the job always reminds me of that incident. The mechanic wouldn't admit to his ever having lost a drill afterwards.

*** I think I would probably have come to the same conclusion had I not contacted CS and I'm sure that a third alternative to your options of "or did you use your common savvy and experience to work out a solution yourself" would be entirely valid. A lot of people here have good deductive skills you know without having letters after their names (& therefore don't feel the need to shout them from the rooftops - see SOME personal profiles here!)

Chas

My question was addressed to Wizard.

Don't care what problems you had 15 years ago or who you now seem to remember ringing about it.
Don't care what you did with a pointed drill ( Some people might have some suggestions by now)

Dont care if you would have been stupid, sorry "savvy", enough to have hacked the regulator to bits.

I don't know where you suddenly dragged this nonsense about letters after names up from. Nothing on my profile about professional or academic qualifications. ( but I do have "O" level woodwork )

Pissed off with your contributions to this thread not one of which was helpful to the OP

 

[CharlesSwallow]

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My question was addressed to Wizard.

Don't care what problems you had 15 years ago or who you now seem to remember ringing about it.
Don't care what you did with a pointed drill ( Some people might have some suggestions by now)

Dont care if you would have been stupid, sorry "savvy", enough to have hacked the regulator to bits.

I don't know where you suddenly dragged this nonsense about letters after names up from. Nothing on my profile about professional or academic qualifications. ( but I do have "O" level woodwork )

Pissed off with your contributions to this thread not one of which was helpful to the OP

This arrogant stance that what you do is sound practice yet what others do can only be categorised as "Hacking things to bits" is astounding. Anyway, the cutting was done by a so-called professional if you care to read more accurately

You, Mallows and Cox seem to bent on some sort of popularity contest. Popularity doesn't bother me one bit but sound advice does and this guy (the OP) would be far better fitting a Sterling - which looks like his intention than an Adverc for my reasons well stated.

As to "academic qualifications" I would have thought that since your profile doesn't show any (I checked first) that my remarks didn't apply to YOU?

Re Messrs Mallow & Cox again who seem to insist that the accelerated charging cycle of a Sterling is fixed to one hour only, I again say that they are wrong and refer you all to items
seven and nine in the first blue table (Performance features) of the attachedhttp://www.sterling-power.com/products-altreg-info.htm Mine also has a screen which shows the time remaining in this phase (Bulk) and when it is complete, that the unit has gone into "Float".

Chas

 

[Ubergeekian]

You, Mallows and Cox seem to bent on some sort of popularity contest. Popularity doesn't bother me one bit but sound advice does and this guy (the OP) would be far better fitting a Sterling - which looks like his intention than an Adverc for my reasons well stated.

When you have achieved anything like the reputations for friendly, helpful and knowledgeable assistance gained by those you attack, I'll take you suggestions more seriously. Having a go at someone for making claim (re belt slip) which is almost word-for-word what Charles Stirling wrote is not impressive.

Re Messrs Mallow & Cox again who seem to insist that the accelerated charging cycle of a Sterling is fixed to one hour only, I again say that they are wrong and refer you all to items
seven and nine in the first blue table (Performance features) of the attachedhttp://www.sterling-power.com/products-altreg-info.htm

The first of those is "Different charging time calculated every time". Have you any evidence (assertion does not count) that this applies to the initial charge period?

The second is "Charges to 4 step constant current charging curves". How does the Sterling regulator measure the charging current?

Mine also has a screen which shows the time remaining in this phase (Bulk) and when it is complete, that the unit has gone into "Float".

And the other two phases?

 

[CharlesSwallow]

When you have achieved anything like the reputations for friendly, helpful and knowledgeable assistance gained by those you attack, I'll take you suggestions more seriously. Having a go at someone for making claim (re belt slip) which is almost word-for-word what Charles Stirling wrote is not impressive.



The first of those is "Different charging time calculated every time". Have you any evidence (assertion does not count) that this applies to the initial charge period?

The second is "Charges to 4 step constant current charging curves". How does the Sterling regulator measure the charging current?



And the other two phases?

I'm getting very close to telling you where to go, my friend.

OH! & BTW: The "initial charge period" as you call it is, primarily, a battery plate cleaning facility.

You aren't SERIOUSLY suggesting that a company with international awards is scamming it's customers are you?

Furthermore, I find this, your most recent post almost unintelligible so if I've misunderstood any of it please let me know.

Chas

 

[Ubergeekian]

I'm getting very close to telling you where to go, my friend.

Before you do that, why not address the questions raised? You've given some pretty strongly worded advice, and it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask you to justify it.

Pal.