Fatal RIB crash. Some questions.

Re: Speed Kills?????

I think I've been going quite fast today but I'm still alive. I've seen people walk away from high speed car crashes and others die in 20 mph fender benders. Speed is just a factor, among hundereds of others, in accidents of all types.

Speed is just moving fast.

Inappropriate speed might kill but, as I got the title of this thing wrong, it wasn't fatal, it didn't kill in this case.

Statisticaly kitchens kill. In fact homes are absolutely deadly.
 
[quote)IMHO every bouy in congested wates (including racing marks) ought to be lit, unlit ones in such waters are a hazard.

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I'm not sure about that. Obviously it would be helpful if such things were lit, but it isn't that long ago that we were complaining about the possibility of leisure boaters having to pay for lights. Many on this forum were saying that they didn't use lights which were only of use for larger vessels. We can't have it both ways!

I would also question the practicality of these large bouys being lit. I've always assumed that the things aren't lit because the equipment would get smashed when a ship moors up. I can't think of any buoys like this which are lit. I may well be wrong, in which case I'm sure that somebody will let me know!

None of this alters the fact that the rib crashed into a buoy which is clearly marked on the charts. I think you said that, at night, you take a different route to avoid the things. It's a pity that this chap didn't exercise the same care.

As an aside. Can anyone tell me how a ship gets a line onto one of these buoys! I've never seen it done. It's a bit too far to reach down....you would need a 50ft boathook for many vessels! Or do they simply get the pilot boat to do it for them?
 
If all steel buoys had to be lit it might encourage the owners of all those yellow racing buoys around the Solent to change to topside-friendly plastic. I have the scars to prove they aren't as innocent as they look (and a helming daughter who will never live it down - can't stay away from the buoys).
 
buoys like this are lit elsewhere in the world as they are deemed a hazard to navigation - imo regs
a tender assists the tanker to pick up a mooring line from the buoy
 
All the navigation marks are lit anyway .. its just Admiralty mooring buoys and racing marks that are not. Not issue of light dues there, just responsible behaviour by owners of the buoys.
 
That's true, I hadn't thought of it that way......(but I still think that the real issue is the driver!) /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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