Fantasy boat

[Stemar]

A real fantasy, rather than a lottery win dream, would be to take a Southerly 35-37, and fit it with a pair of electric drives, one behind each rudder. Lots of battery power and solar would allow me to motor short distances silently, while a QUIET diesel generator takes over on longer runs.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

A real fantasy, rather than a lottery win dream, would be to take a Southerly 35-37, and fit it with a pair of electric drives, one behind each rudder. Lots of battery power and solar would allow me to motor short distances silently, while a QUIET diesel generator takes over on longer runs.

Here's an equally stupid fantasy

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/yacht/2020-garcia-exploration-52-10087820/

 

[pretzel_logic]

Either a Contessa 32 (seems like I'd have to wait for next year's production run) or an HR if they did one without teak decks.

 

[Frogmogman]

If you were to choose a new boat for yourself, and your sort of sailing, what would you get and why?

For this fantasy lets only consider brand new boats, just for fun.

My shortlist would include

JPK 45
Dragonfly 40
Outremer 45

 

[dunedin]

Here's an equally stupid fantasy

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/yacht/2020-garcia-exploration-52-10087820/

Why is it “stupid”? Looks an amazing boat. And the serial hybrid gives the benefits of quiet emission free running most of the time, but huge range when needed.

 

[Mark-1]

Here's an equally stupid fantasy

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/yacht/2020-garcia-exploration-52-10087820/

What's stupid about that?

 

[johnalison]

John, afraid I'm not too keen on new models following the quest for more volume and performance, would consider defecting - IF I change.
A few years ago walking along the Dan Bran pontoon, a 34 - classic, a 342 a modern take and OK, then a 340, it looked like a 342 that had been inflated with an air line, No thx.

I’ve just sold my 34, so that is unavailable, but it did everything we wanted for over twenty years. A bit more length on the waterline would have been nice at times. Friends ordered a 34 but ended up with its replacement, a 342. In spite of some improvements in terms of accommodation, there was a lot that I didn’t like about it, including the loss of the traditional interior design. It was faster than us downwind but needed more attention when sailing, though we could leave them behind upwind in anything of a blow. I have only seen pictures of the newer boats. They certainly look odd, but more or less in line with current trends generally.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Why is it “stupid”? Looks an amazing boat. And the serial hybrid gives the benefits of quiet emission free running most of the time, but huge range when needed.

Two bloody great generators to provide the power for a poxy electric drive. Which in all likelihood is nowhere near the efficiency of the usual Volvo diesels that are installed.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Why is it “stupid”? Looks an amazing boat. And the serial hybrid gives the benefits of quiet emission free running most of the time, but huge range when needed.

Nowhere near the range of the usual diesel unless you prescribe to the fantasy idea of waiting till the sun produces enough power to fill the batteries for an hour or two of motoring. If it's so good why the two large generators?

 

[Mark-1]

Two bloody great generators to provide the power for a poxy electric drive. Which in all likelihood is nowhere near the efficiency of the usual Volvo diesels that are installed.

Ahhh, sorry missed that. Yeah. There seems to be an epidemic of people with electric engines and then fossil fuel generators to charge their batteries.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

I have no problem with the idea for those that want to coastal day sail with the odd extended cross channel trip but to put such a drive in an expedition high latitudes boat is farcical.

 

[Muddy32]

40 foot Dragonfly ! Folded fits into a marina berth when I wish to visit.

Would be the cruising version with all the extras.

But I would prefer the 28, so I can trail it.

 

[Blue Seas]

The thrill of pumping money into boats is starting to wear a little thin after 50 years - So I'd probably go for one one the new 'Hormuz Tollbooth' models albeit with the quad Mercury V12 600hp option.

 

[dunedin]

Nowhere near the range of the usual diesel unless you prescribe to the fantasy idea of waiting till the sun produces enough power to fill the batteries for an hour or two of motoring. If it's so good why the two large generators?

Surprised that it would have two generators as that is not normal and not needed. What is usually specified is a single generator with 48V DC output.
With a good sailing boat most trips have less than 2 hours motoring so most trips are fully silent and recharge overnight on a standard 16A marina socket.
But with the hybrid can run for very long distances at 6 knots or so - using LESS fuel and so LONGER range than the “usual diesel”.

 

[Mark-1]

Surprised that it would have two generators as that is not normal and not needed. What is usually specified is a single generator with 48V DC output.

That boat isn't intended for the usual application though. It's designed to do the Bill Tillman thing and two of everything strikes me as a very good idea when you're hundreds of miles from assistance.

 

[The Q]

Being somewhat decrepit , I've no interest in going to sea any more,.
So a New Yare and Bure one design would suit me.

Sail, prop up bar. Sail prop up bar and repeat..

I'd spend the spare money you lot are using on big sea going boats on a boat house to keep her in..

 

[Manosk]

Rustler 37 for me please

 

[John_Silver]

The new Seawind 1170 for me. For reasons of:



Flexible, short-handed friendly, cruising rig: self tacker + permanently rigged gennaker + optional 'sprit for an asymmetric OR (probably better suited to my sailing needs) a Parasailor deployed with the aid a cat's broad sheeting base (no pole required).



Sheltered helm stations with all sail (and engine) controls to hand.



Interior layout optimised for comfortable cruising for a couple (with guests): Bridgedeck saloon. 'Galley down' in starboard hull. Owners accomodation in port hull. Plus stowage. Lots of stowage.



Along with the anchoring / cill skimming advantages associated with a 1.2m draft. Plus the performance potential which comes with leaving lead ballast keel at home. Manageable size. With modern design aesthetics done good too, by my eye.

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[newtothis]

The new Seawind 1170 for me. For reasons of:

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Flexible, short-handed friendly, cruising rig: self tacker + permanently rigged gennaker + optional 'sprit for an assymetric OR (probably better suited to my sailing needs) a Parasailor controlled with the aid a cat's broad sheeting base (no pole required).

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Sheltered helm stations with all sail (and engine) controls to hand.

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Interior layout optimised for comfortable cruising for a couple (with guests): Bridgedeck saloon. 'Galley down' in starboard hull. Owners accomodation in port hull. Plus stowage. Lots of stowage.

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Along with the anchoring / cill skimming advantages associated with a 1.2m draft. Plus the performance potential that comes with leaving lead ballast keels behind. Modern design aesthetics done good too, by my eye.

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Sir! Sir, he said 'catamaran'!

 

[johnalison]

Being somewhat decrepit , I've no interest in going to sea any more,.
So a New Yare and Bure one design would suit me.
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Sail, prop up bar. Sail prop up bar and repeat..

I'd spend the spare money you lot are using on big sea going boats on a boat house to keep her in..

Great idea. I just might join you, to recreate the weeks I spent messing around in a White Myth. Don't they look good?