fantasticservice from Fairline

[henryf]

I've never seen the UK market so low with used boats this year.
I'd guess it's down to demise of companies like UK factory Sealine and the scaling down of Fairline , the used market always relied on owners trading up twice yearly shows to speed up the used market.

Has anyone been to used boatshows, the usual vibrant Swanwick one looked poor on listings when I looked online this week, the number of used boats that Ancasta used to have was around a thousand, last time j looked it was barely 600.

I did chuckle when I read this.

Low volume of used boats for sale indicates a poor market, high volume of boats for sale indicates a poor market with boats languishing unsold.

You can't win

Could it be that the boat market has picked up and boats are actually selling? The reality is also that more dealers selling new boats are choosing to retail their part exchanges but at prices which mean you will instantly dismiss them and they won't appear on Ancaster's listings.

I'm not convinced that the bulk of the UK used market is driven directly by new sales. I would say there are far more people selling a used boat to buy another used boat.

I think you like to believe the market is on its arse

I know how much my last boat has just sold for, 4 years after I sold it to buy our current tub and that reflects a very healthy market indeed!

Henry

 

[volvopaul]

I did chuckle when I read this.

Low volume of used boats for sale indicates a poor market, high volume of boats for sale indicates a poor market with boats languishing unsold.

You can't win

Could it be that the boat market has picked up and boats are actually selling? The reality is also that more dealers selling new boats are choosing to retail their part exchanges but at prices which mean you will instantly dismiss them and they won't appear on Ancaster's listings.

I'm not convinced that the bulk of the UK used market is driven directly by new sales. I would say there are far more people selling a used boat to buy another used boat.

I think you like to believe the market is on its arse

I know how much my last boat has just sold for, 4 years after I sold it to buy our current tub and that reflects a very healthy market indeed!

Henry

As ever Henry your always right, I don't know why I bother contributing to this forum anymore.

You read this wrong, as I stated with the demise of Sealine turning high numbers out every year and Fairline too this brought high volumes of used boats to the market every year, even new boats sold abroad ended up back here to be sold.
You only have to look at how many of the smaller brokers have disappeared over the last few years along with the builders outlets which were scattered all over the south coast, there all gone now.

Look at how many used Princess, Fairlines and Sealines Ancasta have on there books, very small amounts compared to 3 years ago, it the same abroad. A lot of dealers are now deciding to market there PX boats where in past years it was a take it or leave it attitude, the climate has dictated that can't happen now, one time Princess used to underwrite most PX boats to the likes of Burton Waters as they had a policy of not selling the older boats, times have had to change now they take most boats in PX and make then very tidy to retail again, a bit like your trade. I never said the market was on its arse!.
I know your old 42 sold recently , I found Terrys buyer and how grateful he wasn't, he sold it to a mate of mine.

 

[petem]

I do not wish to put downer on this thread but I have to say my experience is some what different.
Having bought a 3 year old Fairline and requiring some additional items and fittings etc had no joy from the factory at all!
I did meet the production head at the British boat show and was promised that they would help and even do a crew cabin fit out and make us a unit as well.
I heard no more and after contacting them was politely told they would contact me and never did!
Would I buy a new Fairline no way I think the service has been very poor and speaking with the sales people they all agreed the factory was impossible to deal with and instead source from the suppliers direct.

Nigel, I'm afraid you suffered from Fairline having only been restarted a couple of months before. But they should have called you to explain that.

 

[henryf]

I know your old 42 sold recently , I found Terrys buyer and how grateful he wasn't, he sold it to a mate of mine.

What with my photos and your introduction we should be dining on lobster until Christmas. Like you I am just about to settle down to my beans on toast. I'll treat myself to a splash of HP sauce.

I think technology and ease of marketing ( with someone else's photos ) might have scuppered a number of brokers. 6% plus vat is quite a lot of money if you can avoid paying it.

Henry

 

[volvopaul]

What with my photos and your introduction we should be dining on lobster until Christmas. Like you I am just about to settle down to my beans on toast. I'll treat myself to a splash of HP sauce.

I think technology and ease of marketing ( with someone else's photos ) might have scuppered a number of brokers. 6% plus vat is quite a lot of money if you can avoid paying it.

Henry

Yes I'd agree we would but the lobster funds never turned up .

Pm sent

 

[vaboater]

I'm hoping the Fairline support continues to strengthen considering I close on our 42 Squadron in a couple of days