Fairline Targa questions

[alt]

I hear ya. Here in Ireland the season is short (and sometimes not sweet), BUT, I am 1 mile away from my boat so as soon as the weather picks up, i'm out the door!

We also don't let the weather get to us here - there's a community of us that are out in rain, hail or shine and we make the most of it!

 

[scubaman]

I´m living abroad since 10yrs but actually of Finn-Swede origin , so I will be shipping my boat to my dear home country where I normally spend the summers with my family. Planning to keep it firstly in Helsinki at my Sail Club (used to sail a lot) and then drive around the archipelago and later lake side (Saimaa).
In fact, I did consider keeping it in Mallorca or elsewhere in the Med but I dont have a lot of holidays during the winter so Scandinavia made more sense even if the season is very short, but short and sweet.. Mallorca would of course have been great as well but you cannot have everything, 2 boats would be the best solution heheh

Hi Yacht, I somehow missed the latest developments on this thread and only now made the connection. Congratulations on your new purchase! May you have many happy times onboard!

I am very much looking forward to meeting you in Lake Saimaa next summer. I'll dig more wintering options for you by then, in the meantime I'll be posting pics of the place I've kept my boat this winter.

Cheers.

 

[yacht]

Hi Yacht, I somehow missed the latest developments on this thread and only now made the connection. Congratulations on your new purchase! May you have many happy times onboard!

I am very much looking forward to meeting you in Lake Saimaa next summer. I'll dig more wintering options for you by then, in the meantime I'll be posting pics of the place I've kept my boat this winter.

Cheers.

Sounds good, thanks a lot for your help, much appreciated. I´m now trying to work out transportation with Fairline North Mallorca, seems very expensive to get the boat shipped to Finland, more expensive than planned. but trying to find different options for example looking at lorries bringing new boats down there and going empty back up towards the North..

Plan is still to get the boat shipped before end of May

See you at Lake Saimaa this summer!!

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Sounds good, thanks. I´m now trying to work out transportation with Fairline North Mallorca, seems very expensive to get the boat shipped to Finland, more expensive than planned. but trying to find different options for example looking at lorries bringing new boats down there and going empty back up towards the North..

Plan is still to get the boat shipped before end of May

See you at Lake Saimaa!!

By sea to France; truck up to the channel; by sea back home?

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[yacht]

By sea to France; truck up to the channel; by sea back home?

Cheers
Jimmy

Thanks Jimmy, will think of different solutions for sure.

If anyone is trucking a boat from North to south in the coming month or so and having the truck go back up empty from Barcelona or Palma, do let me know.

I'm hoping Fairline Mallorca will have some boats coming down in the next few weeks to cut down on the transportation costs.... Cheers

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Thanks Jimmy, will think of different solutions for sure.

If anyone is trucking a boat from North to south in the coming month or so and having the truck go back up empty from Barcelona or Palma, do let me know.

I'm hoping Fairline Mallorca will have some boats coming down in the next few weeks to cut down on the transportation costs.... Cheers

Send a text to Russ at Coast 2 Coast, ask him about return loads, he's got trucks running up and down all the time. He moved my T40 to the Med from the UK, excellent service.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[scubaman]

Give also these guys a call -> http://www.mergusyt.fi/fi/

They advertise taking boats from Finland to France so might have a return load available.

 

[robsaway]

Hi Jimmy, I am in Antibes like you and have a Targa 38. 1994 , would love to meet and have a chat, I want to do some jobs on the boat and would be good to get your opinion.
robsaway

 

[robsaway]

Hi, I have a Targa 38 1994 very nice condition with Kad 42 (850 hours app.) I have had her for about 4 years no real problems I love the build quality and feel very comfortable owning her,not like some lesser marques where you are always waiting for the next big problem,want to buy a Phantom 40 + , I need the space a "fly" will give me,so looking to PX or sell, anybody have any suggestions ?, I am based in Antibes ,south of France

 

[yacht]

Had a great summer, spent a lot of time this summer driving around with my family, transport from Mallorca to Helsinki went fine, then drove to Hanko and then later on to the lake Saimaa (the route there goes through Russian waters!)
everything worked great on this boat so think it was a steal i.e. price wise, small things to fix in the winter time but mechanically everything worked great and drove more than 40hours with it!

Btw. already thinking about bigger boat for next summer or the summer thereafter, any ideas?
Thinking about another Fairline as love the quality build, maybe 43 Phantom or something like that to get more room for those longer trips.

I have moved just now with my family to London, England so any ideas from Brits would be welcome as on my mind is to either sell my Targa 34 in Finland / Sweden or bring it here for a part exchange (there are no good price-quality Fairlines to buy in Finland)



My ultimate goal and DREAM is to own a 65ft Oyster sailboat so working slowly towards that as I dont believe in leverage when buying boats due to price depreciation

 

[jrudge]

The main place that takes part exchanges is Essex boatyards. They also happen to be a Fairline dealer. Re uk or Finland - no idea!

Selling in the uk at this time of year will be slow but anything will shift at the right price.

 

[volvopaul]

Had a great summer, spent a lot of time this summer driving around with my family, transport from Mallorca to Helsinki went fine, then drove to Hanko and then later on to the lake Saimaa (the route there goes through Russian waters!)
everything worked great on this boat so think it was a steal i.e. price wise, small things to fix in the winter time but mechanically everything worked great and drove more than 40hours with it!

Btw. already thinking about bigger boat for next summer or the summer thereafter, any ideas?
Thinking about another Fairline as love the quality build, maybe 43 Phantom or something like that to get more room for those longer trips.

I have moved just now with my family to London, England so any ideas from Brits would be welcome as on my mind is to either sell my Targa 34 in Finland / Sweden or bring it here for a part exchange (there are no good price-quality Fairlines to buy in Finland)



My ultimate goal and DREAM is to own a 65ft Oyster sailboat so working slowly towards that as I dont believe in leverage when buying boats due to price depreciation

The phantom 40 is the more popular boat, I was told by fairline the 43 wasn't a great seller as the 46 ticked more boxes and sold better , with just another 3 feet it gave a third cabin and a small crew cabin. The phantom 43 is also a thirsty boat as I has the 480hp engines in, the 40 has the 370 hp engines and pushes the boat along quite happily for a reduced fuel figure. I have of late compared both boats as a possible next purchase until I'm dizzy in the head. My wallet tells me to buy a 40 , the wife and my heart tell me to buy a 43 as it just adds that little bit more space we require as we compare every boat to our older princess 410 which is virtually the same length with its davits as the phantom 43 and the same beam, where the 40 is quite narrow. It's a real lottery deciding as the princess 42 is a great boat and now becoming affordable to the likes of myself now.
The princess is a different story over the fairlines, the interior is just fabulous if you like lots of wood, the machinery is the same, the space is the same, the flybridge doesn't have a s good a layout as the phantom but I prefer the moulded stairs to the fly and the better interior helm layout over the phantom. Average prices may be an extra 50k over the phantoms but it will be a slightly newer boat. I'm not a fan of the D6 engine as in later years hey will blow, a short block is 10k as pistons and liners are not available , there not an engine you can rebuild easily. The older TAMD 75 is a fully rebuildable unit needing 3k worth of parts for a full overhaul. Phantom, Princess. Phantom ,Princess , oh I'm still not sure!! Happy hunting.

 

[yacht]

Thanks volvopaul, Im thinking along the same lines and thanks for the tip re: the 43. Maybe I´ll buy one of these boats again from Spain as the boats are really cheap down there and I am happy with the purchase of my Targa34. I guess for me it all depends on if I can sell my boat next summer or the summer after and then go hunting for the next one as I need more space, Im tall 190cm and my wife and kid and all the toys sure need a lot of room. Princess is probably out of my budget for the next 3-4 years so Fairline to me seems like the most obvious choice and Im already a big Fairline fan, understated but great build

The phantom 40 is the more popular boat, I was told by fairline the 43 wasn't a great seller as the 46 ticked more boxes and sold better , with just another 3 feet it gave a third cabin and a small crew cabin. The phantom 43 is also a thirsty boat as I has the 480hp engines in, the 40 has the 370 hp engines and pushes the boat along quite happily for a reduced fuel figure. I have of late compared both boats as a possible next purchase until I'm dizzy in the head. My wallet tells me to buy a 40 , the wife and my heart tell me to buy a 43 as it just adds that little bit more space we require as we compare every boat to our older princess 410 which is virtually the same length with its davits as the phantom 43 and the same beam, where the 40 is quite narrow. It's a real lottery deciding as the princess 42 is a great boat and now becoming affordable to the likes of myself now.
The princess is a different story over the fairlines, the interior is just fabulous if you like lots of wood, the machinery is the same, the space is the same, the flybridge doesn't have a s good a layout as the phantom but I prefer the moulded stairs to the fly and the better interior helm layout over the phantom. Average prices may be an extra 50k over the phantoms but it will be a slightly newer boat. I'm not a fan of the D6 engine as in later years hey will blow, a short block is 10k as pistons and liners are not available , there not an engine you can rebuild easily. The older TAMD 75 is a fully rebuildable unit needing 3k worth of parts for a full overhaul. Phantom, Princess. Phantom ,Princess , oh I'm still not sure!! Happy hunting.

 

[alt]

Wow, you didn't have that 34 for long!!

 

[yacht]

Hi alt, might keep the boat until summer 2015 depending on finances. Im just thinking if I could get a good deal on it then might look for a bigger one already next summer.. but happy with the boat itself except would like 10 feet more of space!

Wow, you didn't have that 34 for long!!

 

[scubaman]

Our previous boat was a Sealine F37 which is slightly smaller than the Phantom 40. Here are some quick thoughts on the space onboard the Phantom 43. All very much IMHO, of course:

Comparing to the F37, the Phantom 43 gives just that much more space everywhere to make it work very well on longer stays (we spent the six week holiday onboard). To be more specific, the cockpit feels significantly bigger with enough space to properly have a table and two chairs. In fact, we had the saloon table in the cockpit the whole summer and ate almost all our meals there. Pushing the table forward a bit left enough room to move around when mooring, etc. The covers don't hamper the usability and the heater keeps the space warm even now. There is an ok sized lazarette, but the access is slightly awkward through the smallish hatch.

With the table out, the saloon is wide enough for the kids to play in without the toys blocking everything. Galley has good storage, nicely countertop space and a decent sized fridge. The heads compartments are big enough to move around to assist kids with their washing up, and the shower cubicle(s) work perfectly (btw, we used the cubicle in the master heads as an extra wardrobe). Front cabin is about the same size but the second cabin has more area with full standing height.

The fly lay-out is very succesfull, imho. We like the griddle and wash basin which make it a good space for the occasional evening meal. We haven't tried the sunpad option yet but probably give it a go next summer.

Engine bay is of good size with enough space to move between the engines but I'm not looking forward to the stb impeller change next spring...

In the two cabin territory I think Princess 42 (another great boat, btw)/Phantom 43 are pretty much ideal size.

Yacht: for your future reference, if you are going down to the boat in the near future, you're welcome to have a look around to see how the space works. Harri has the keys...

 

[volvopaul]

Our previous boat was a Sealine F37 which is slightly smaller than the Phantom 40. Here are some quick thoughts on the space onboard the Phantom 43. All very much IMHO, of course:

Comparing to the F37, the Phantom 43 gives just that much more space everywhere to make it work very well on longer stays (we spent the six week holiday onboard). To be more specific, the cockpit feels significantly bigger with enough space to properly have a table and two chairs. In fact, we had the saloon table in the cockpit the whole summer and ate almost all our meals there. Pushing the table forward a bit left enough room to move around when mooring, etc. The covers don't hamper the usability and the heater keeps the space warm even now. There is an ok sized lazarette, but the access is slightly awkward through the smallish hatch.

With the table out, the saloon is wide enough for the kids to play in without the toys blocking everything. Galley has good storage, nicely countertop space and a decent sized fridge. The heads compartments are big enough to move around to assist kids with their washing up, and the shower cubicle(s) work perfectly (btw, we used the cubicle in the master heads as an extra wardrobe). Front cabin is about the same size but the second cabin has more area with full standing height.

The fly lay-out is very succesfull, imho. We like the griddle and wash basin which make it a good space for the occasional evening meal. We haven't tried the sunpad option yet but probably give it a go next summer.

Engine bay is of good size with enough space to move between the engines but I'm not looking forward to the stb impeller change next spring...

In the two cabin territory I think Princess 42 (another great boat, btw)/Phantom 43 are pretty much ideal size.

Yacht: for your future reference, if you are going down to the boat in the near future, you're welcome to have a look around to see how the space works. Harri has the keys...

Hi Kivi, don't despair over the stb impeller, once the furniture is out the way its easy.

 

[yacht]

Thanks! might go to our country house nearby once more in October if I get a business trip organised to Finland.. then would go and see my boat as well to discuss with Harri who for other readers is the boat yard owner/mechanic about changing my swim-platform teak which is in quite bad shape after years in the Mallorca sun.. also need to fix the bimini cover, cannot see anything out from the front bimini window and started another thread on asking people how they drive with these boats in rainy conditions, my windshield is so tinted that it is less useful in the late summer, autumn when it starts getting dark outside

but thanks for the offer to have a look at your boats interior, if I get a chance to go there in October, would be great to see your boats interior

Our previous boat was a Sealine F37 which is slightly smaller than the Phantom 40. Here are some quick thoughts on the space onboard the Phantom 43. All very much IMHO, of course:

Comparing to the F37, the Phantom 43 gives just that much more space everywhere to make it work very well on longer stays (we spent the six week holiday onboard). To be more specific, the cockpit feels significantly bigger with enough space to properly have a table and two chairs. In fact, we had the saloon table in the cockpit the whole summer and ate almost all our meals there. Pushing the table forward a bit left enough room to move around when mooring, etc. The covers don't hamper the usability and the heater keeps the space warm even now. There is an ok sized lazarette, but the access is slightly awkward through the smallish hatch.

With the table out, the saloon is wide enough for the kids to play in without the toys blocking everything. Galley has good storage, nicely countertop space and a decent sized fridge. The heads compartments are big enough to move around to assist kids with their washing up, and the shower cubicle(s) work perfectly (btw, we used the cubicle in the master heads as an extra wardrobe). Front cabin is about the same size but the second cabin has more area with full standing height.

The fly lay-out is very succesfull, imho. We like the griddle and wash basin which make it a good space for the occasional evening meal. We haven't tried the sunpad option yet but probably give it a go next summer.

Engine bay is of good size with enough space to move between the engines but I'm not looking forward to the stb impeller change next spring...

In the two cabin territory I think Princess 42 (another great boat, btw)/Phantom 43 are pretty much ideal size.

Yacht: for your future reference, if you are going down to the boat in the near future, you're welcome to have a look around to see how the space works. Harri has the keys...