Fairline Squadron 78 refit/fit - Hard Top

[jfm]

Just on antifoul performance, here is the Micron 77 soft eroding paint, immediately after lift out before any jetwashing. This is 11 months in the water (in w Med) with no lift outs. The sides above the chine, that have exposure to light, get some very light stuff growing on them but the bottom looks exactly as it did the day after the paint was applied. I'm a big fan of M77

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

The hull antifoul has worked well but, yuk those props look well barnacled up. How much speed do you lose when they're like that? I've never had an issue with hull fouling anywhere in the Med, only sterngear fouling. I used to specify the type of antifouling paint to the yard, normally Micron CSC or whatever they call it now but now I just leave it to the yard to choose an appropriate antifoul paint because they know what works best in their waters

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Just on antifoul performance, here is the Micron 77 soft eroding paint, immediately after lift out before any jetwashing. This is 11 months in the water (in w Med) with no lift outs. The sides above the chine, that have exposure to light, get some very light stuff growing on them but the bottom looks exactly as it did the day after the paint was applied. I'm a big fan of M77

Thanks for that. In fact Vince the awesome Valeter had already suggested M77 and that's what's going on the boat in a couple of weeks time (assuming I can get clarity on the whole blasting/scraping/sanding thing).

 

[jfm]

Yup, agreed Deleted User - prop fouling is the problem to which we don't really have a perfect answer. To be fair the props were ok from last year's March lift out till end of the summer, thanks to TK spray antifoul. But that then wore out/ran out of poison, and the crud in above pictures grew during the winter, which I'm less bothered about. I've just put TK on the props again, one can on each prop

 

[alt]

Yup, agreed Deleted User - prop fouling is the problem to which we don't really have a perfect answer. To be fair the props were ok from last year's March lift out till end of the summer, thanks to TK spray antifoul. But that then wore out/ran out of poison, and the crud in above pictures grew during the winter, which I'm less bothered about. I've just put TK on the props again, one can on each prop

I'm surprised that more people don't learn basic SCUBA and buy some gear... every so often jump under the hull and give the props a scrub.

Or do these little critters weld themselves to the props? I noticed when diving off Blue Angel, the props were sparkly clean!!

 

[jfm]

I have full scuba x 2 on board, and two divers. We do occasionally clean the props but it is hard work (16 big blade faces). Normally the stuff I spray on at my March lift out lasts me thru the summer

 

[Hurricane]

I have full scuba x 2 on board, and two divers. We do occasionally clean the props but it is hard work (16 big blade faces). Normally the stuff I spray on at my March lift out lasts me thru the summer

Me too
But I wonder how many on here have actually scraped their props whilst the boat is in the water.
Yes - the little critters do come off but - think about it - they end up in the water all around you.
They get in your hair, inside the SCUBA stab jacket and into all those little human cracks.
It is a horrible job - I've done it a few times but our marina offers very cheap lift and scrubs - believe me it is much better to get them pressure washed.

As far as getting down to check them is concerned, the Med waters make it so much easier.
When we were in the UK, I never saw the props under water - now we are in the Med, I have a look every time I go swimming.
After a good breath and a little experience, it is easy to have 5 or 10 seconds down there checking everything out.
We hardly use the SCUBA - maybe this summer with MapisM in Sardinia we will use our two sets for proper SCUBA diving.

 

[Nick_H]

Me too
But I wonder how many on here have actually scraped their props whilst the boat is in the water.
Yes - the little critters do come off but - think about it - they end up in the water all around you.
They get in your hair, inside the SCUBA stab jacket and into all those little human cracks.
It is a horrible job - I've done it a few times but our marina offers very cheap lift and scrubs - believe me it is much better to get them pressure washed..

I do, once or twice a season usually, and I don't mind it. I have a good quality scraper and can do my props in about 20 mins. If the rudders and trim tabs need doing, that only adds a few mins as they're nice and flat. You're right about the barnacles going everywhere though.

I haven't needed to for the last couple of years though, as I've used Velox Plus and had good results with it.

 

[DavidJ]

They get in your hair, inside the SCUBA stab jacket and into all those little human cracks.

Your quote has brought it all back to me and I'm itching as I write. We used to have a couple of sets on board (but rent the tanks). I can just about lean over the platform with head down and the drives up and scrape the stuff off. Only takes half an hour for the sickness to wear off!!

 

[lanerboy]

JFM I have just googled micron 77 paint and found some at just over £200 for 5 lts is that about right in price

http://www.boatpaint.co.uk/acatalog/International_Micron77.html

also it states max hull speed 16 knots what are your views on this

cheers shawn

 

[alt]

A very valid point made about the bits going everywhere, I hadn't taken that into consideration.

jfm - Are the scooper looking things on the hull (facing aft) something to do with the air-con?

 

[jfm]

JFM I have just googled micron 77 paint and found some at just over £200 for 5 lts is that about right in price

http://www.boatpaint.co.uk/acatalog/International_Micron77.html

also it states max hull speed 16 knots what are your views on this

cheers shawn

yup Shawn the M77 paint is dear retail. Trade is much better but I don't have trade access. That price you mention looks right retail. I pay €1000 inc vat retail in France for a 25 litre keg which is one coat on my boat

I totally ignore the 16 knots thing. They are just playing cya. The stuff is fine at mid 20 knots and loads of people will confirm that including MYAG above. I've been using the stuff for 6 years. The whole point is that you *want* it to erode away during the season

 

[jfm]

jfm - Are the scooper looking things on the hull (facing aft) something to do with the air-con?

The big one, far left of last pic near the chine? No, thats the port side main engine underwater exhaust

 

[HelgeA]

Metal Antifouling

Good evening. I have a Fairline SQ58/2012 located in Croatia. Last season I found the right prop AF, see enclosed pics from Oct 2013 and 2014. Last spring I used first time Velox Plus, and the difference is really amazing. It is important to polish all metal parts just before primer, on the props and rudders I put 3 layers AF, all other parts 2 layers. Next October I can report if it the result is the same or it was just a one day fly.
Best rgds
Helge

 

[HelgeA]

Metal Antifouling

Good evening
I am from Austria and I have a Fairline SQ58/2012 in Croatia. Last year I tried first time Velox Plus, and I am really pleased with the result. Before I used Nautix A7, but it went worse from year to year (Phantom50 before). I didn't change the way how to paint, it requires some polishing prior painting the primer. On the hull I have Nautix A3, this works perfect since many years. Didn't trust the original factory paint (International AFIK) and changed to Nautix A3.
Best rgds
Helge

 

[lanerboy]

Re-launch is next Saturday (7/3/2015) so I'll post a few more pictures and video after that.

JFM
Did you manage to get any video you could post for us to see :encouragement:

 

[jfm]

Yep will do. Sorry have been a bit delinquent updating this thread. Actually fairline team are on boat tomorrow and this weekend doing final HT tweaks

 

[jfm]

Re: Metal Antifouling

Good evening
I am from Austria and I have a Fairline SQ58/2012 in Croatia. Last year I tried first time Velox Plus, and I am really pleased with the result. Before I used Nautix A7, but it went worse from year to year (Phantom50 before). I didn't change the way how to paint, it requires some polishing prior painting the primer. On the hull I have Nautix A3, this works perfect since many years. Didn't trust the original factory paint (International AFIK) and changed to Nautix A3.
Best rgds
Helge

helge, many thanks. I've only just seen this. What are we looking at? Pics 2,3,4 are your boat lifted after 1 year of velox plus? And picture 1 is a previous lift out with NA3? Or what?

Where are you based? It seems to be a light fouling location because in picture 4 there is no fouling on your unpainted lumishore light

 

[HelgeA]

Re: Metal Antifouling

Good morning

Yes, it is exactly like that, 1st picture shows Nautix, the others Velox, all after one season (March-End Oct) in water.

I am in Sukosan in the marina Dalmacija (now D-Marin), and it's quite a fouling location. The lumishore lights are clean because I clean them frequently, otherwise they would look like the unpainted chain of the tender launch system.

I have just installed a watermaker and a fuel cell, if there is interest I can post some some photos.

Best rgds
Helge

helge, many thanks. I've only just seen this. What are we looking at? Pics 2,3,4 are your boat lifted after 1 year of velox plus? And picture 1 is a previous lift out with NA3? Or what?

Where are you based? It seems to be a light fouling location because in picture 4 there is no fouling on your unpainted lumishore light

 

[HelgeA]

Re: Metal Antifouling

Good evening
Posted a response today morning, but it did not occur. Yes, the first picture shows the results of the last season I used Nautix, the rest shows Velox, March to end of October 2014.
I am in Sukosan in the Marina Dalmacija (now D-Marin), and we have enough fouling. The lumishore looks nice because I am cleaning it frequently, otherwise it would be as the unpainted chain on the tender launch system.
Best rgds
Helge

PS: I just installed a watermaker and a fuel cell. If there is interest I can post some pictures.