Fair pricefor Mariner 2HP

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Do you think £444 is fair price for 2 horses 2 stroke Mariner in very nice condition. My existing one is f****d and the Tohatsu I bought to replace it is nice but I so value the 10 kilos of the Mariner. But I think that price is OTT
 
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eddystone said:
Do you think £444 is fair price for 2 horses 2 stroke Mariner in very nice condition. My existing one is f****d and the Tohatsu I bought to replace it is nice but I so value the 10 kilos of the Mariner. But I think that price is OTT
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It's what it is worth to you. Mine is a gem, the same engine you're looking at, bought and used in fresh water for 1.5hrs at Boroughbridge and then he sold his caravan and put it in the loft, c. 15/20 years ago. Tool kit and pins all present.

After my hopelessly unreliable Johnson Seahorse, its the perfect engine, ie boring.. pull the string, it goes, press stop it stops

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Price, (sorry) £150, and no, I didn't haggle

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You can get a new Honda 2.3 4 stroke for not much more, look at the Ely Chandlers Web site, I got one from them last season, good price, delvery on time etc. No association with them, just a satisfied customer.
 
I've been told my Tohatsu 3.5 would fetch around £350 and the cover has faded in the sun. Good strokers are much sought after. That said, it's a wee bit rich in my opinion (I wouldn't pay that much). Mind you I'd not buy the Honda either, even if I were in the market for a new engine.
 
I have a two stroke 2.2 Mercury in the kitchen, yep the wifes really happy about that lol, I'd be looking about £175 to sell it, the price you quote seems a bit steep.
 
Good ones sell in the £200-£250 range on ebay, buyer beware etc.

Dealers are selling them with a little warranty for £400-£500 and more importantly people are buying them.
 
If you visit the CI's you can still get a new one - about £550 for a 2.5 2S. Naturally you would only buy one for use whilst there ;)
 
£444 seems a lot.

I would be happy to get 200 Pounds for my Tohatsu 3.5 2006 usual faded graphics but starts and runs just fine. Pickup only from Clarks Court bay Grenada.

I bought it as a stop gap after my nearly new Tohatsu 18 hp self destructed and I got the runaround from Tohatsu and the selling dealer. 5 year warranty HAH you can't prove it by me.
 
How old is it? I paid less than that for a brand new one in 2001. £250 tops given you don't know where it's been (unless you do know where its been but even so he's trying it on).
 
eddystone said:
Do you think £444 is fair price for 2 horses 2 stroke Mariner in very nice condition. My existing one is f****d and the Tohatsu I bought to replace it is nice but I so value the 10 kilos of the Mariner. But I think that price is OTT
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Waaay too expensive I reckon. I bought my 2 stroke, 2hp, 10kg outboard motor from an Ebay seller in an auction 12 months ago for £110 and it is still in excellent condition...

PS: If you do buy one make sure you feed it 50:1 not 100:1 - should last longer.
 
I would not pay more than £250. Incidentally running 2 strokes on over rich mixture is not a good idea as you're increasing the air to petrol ratio which could make it run hot.
Vallich said:
Waaay too expensive I reckon. I bought my 2 stroke, 2hp, 10kg outboard motor from an Ebay seller in an auction 12 months ago for £110 and it is still in excellent condition...

PS: If you do buy one make sure you feed it 50:1 not 100:1 - should last longer.
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ghostlymoron said:
I would not pay more than £250. Incidentally running 2 strokes on over rich mixture is not a good idea as you're increasing the air to petrol ratio which could make it run hot.
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I've never seen any evidence for an extra 1% of oil making the engine run hot.
You'd be very lucky to have a carburettor engine fuelled to 1% accuracy.
The oil burns too, at least to some extent, so the amount of oxygen consumed is not reduced by 1%.

I think most 2hp outboards are probably fuelled rich of stoich anyway.

Personally, with modern engines and good oil, I go for about 66:1 on engines where 100:1 is claimed, and about 40:1 on my 50:1 'Ancient Mariner'.
 
Think you are all right - a case of a broker who knows it's not taking up much space and someone will buy it eventually - really nice condition though. Think I'll make a webbing sling for the Tohatsu which is same weight as Honda 2.3 or Suzuki 2.5. Amazing how advancing age makes one more sensitive to small number of kilos. What chance have I got of getting 28.5 kilo liferaft out of cockpit locker!
 
lw395 said:
I've never seen any evidence for an extra 1% of oil making the engine run hot.
You'd be very lucky to have a carburettor engine fuelled to 1% accuracy.
The oil burns too, at least to some extent, so the amount of oxygen consumed is not reduced by 1%.

I think most 2hp outboards are probably fuelled rich of stoich anyway.

Personally, with modern engines and good oil, I go for about 66:1 on engines where 100:1 is claimed, and about 40:1 on my 50:1 'Ancient Mariner'.
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Come to think of it I am probably using 60:1 in my OB as you suggested and definitely 40:1 in my Dolphin engine - both running sweetly...
 
lw395 said:
I've never seen any evidence for an extra 1% of oil making the engine run hot.
You'd be very lucky to have a carburettor engine fuelled to 1% accuracy.
The oil burns too, at least to some extent, so the amount of oxygen consumed is not reduced by 1%.

I think most 2hp outboards are probably fuelled rich of stoich anyway.

Personally, with modern engines and good oil, I go for about 66:1 on engines where 100:1 is claimed, and about 40:1 on my 50:1 'Ancient Mariner'.
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You may well be right. My experience of 2 strokes is limited to BSA Bantams and Seagull outboards. The former runs on 25:1 and is extremely sensitive to this ratio. The latter runs on 16:1 as standard but can be adjusted to run on 20:1 without replacing the needle or 25:1 if you swap it (allegedly) although mine won't run happily on 25:1.
 
ghostlymoron said:
You may well be right. My experience of 2 strokes is limited to BSA Bantams and Seagull outboards. The former runs on 25:1 and is extremely sensitive to this ratio. The latter runs on 16:1 as standard but can be adjusted to run on 20:1 without replacing the needle or 25:1 if you swap it (allegedly) although mine won't run happily on 25:1.
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Sensitivity to ratios like more oil than 25:1 often implies plug fouling, although some oil is much better than others.
I wonder if the oil burns slower and has some anti-knock influence rather than simply a fuel-air thing?
BSA bantams and Seagulls are about the only two strokes I've managed to avoid getting too involved with, although I think MZ's used to have some of the same DNA as Bantams?
I did a lot of miles on MZs as a student.
 
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