Failed BSS - transom fuel coupling

[TheMerryFisher]

Hi all,
I failed my BSS today due to my boat not having an external bayonet coupling from the fuel tank to my outboard.

what do you all think about the photo attached? It seems very dangerous to me to have a hanging fuel line as this is definitely a trip hazard surely?!
I have a conventional setup where all the fuel and control lines feed into a large grommet.

Has anyone has anyone had this failure? If so, can you send some photos of how you rectified the issue. Thanks!

 

[rafiki_]

Worth calling the BSS head office technical people. They were very helpful when I had a fuel issue on my Sunline.

 

[Momac]

Hi all,
I failed my BSS today due to my boat not having an external bayonet coupling from the fuel tank to my outboard.

I may be mistaken but Fig 3 appears to show that no bayonet connection is required

 

[TheMerryFisher]

I may be mistaken but Fig 3 appears to show that no bayonet connection is required

Perhaps worded poorly on my part, but it still needs to have a permanent fixing at the bulk head. I can’t seem to find a photo of any other setups either.

 

[SC35]

That document says "the three most likely arrangements", and the corresponding checks.
It doesn't say that any other arrangement is a fail.

 

[Momac]

I assume the fault is the fuel hose not being secured where it passes through the bulkhead?

 

[TheMerryFisher]

So the way it was explained is that it needs an external fitting at the back of the boat.
Fuel line running from the tank, to filter to bulkhead fitting. Then, from the fitting, I presume some sort of bayonet connection it with jubilee clips to the outboard.

I am just struggling to find the connections I would need and photos of other installations. I obviously want it to look half decent and not just a shabby job!
This is the current install, which is what I have seen most outboard boats have.

 

[penberth3]

So the way it was explained is that it needs an external fitting at the back of the boat.
Fuel line running from the tank, to filter to bulkhead fitting. Then, from the fitting, I presume some sort of bayonet connection it with jubilee clips to the outboard.

I am just struggling to find the connections I would need and photos of other installations. I obviously want it to look half decent and not just a shabby job!
This is the current install, which is what I have seen most outboard boats have.

So, if I'm reading it right, you want something like this?

 

[SC35]

So the way it was explained is that it needs an external fitting at the back of the boat.
Fuel line running from the tank, to filter to bulkhead fitting. Then, from the fitting, I presume some sort of bayonet connection it with jubilee clips to the outboard.

I am just struggling to find the connections I would need and photos of other installations. I obviously want it to look half decent and not just a shabby job!
This is the current install, which is what I have seen most outboard boats have.

There's nothing wrong with what you have.
Stand on the feet of the existing BSS Examiner, then find a different one.

Adding a bulkhead fitting like that just provides two additional opportunities for a fuel leak.

 

[Boat2016]

I would discuss this with your examiner and get the correct recommendation instead of asking on a forum where you just get uneducated guesses from those who are not qualified in the subject and are just guessing as to what they believe you should have. That’s the only way you will get the right answer.

 

[TheMerryFisher]

I would discuss this with your examiner and get the correct recommendation instead of asking on a forum where you just get uneducated guesses from those who are not qualified in the subject and are just guessing as to what they believe you should have. That’s the only way you will get the right answer.

I totally agree with your comment, but, I cannot be the only outboard boat on the river. Many other people must have been in the same position but yet it doesn’t seem so as I’ve not had one person anywhere offer photos of their setups/changes they had to make.

 

[Momac]

Have you tried an inland waterways boating forum such as .........
Canal World

 

[Boat2016]

Have you tried an inland waterways boating forum such as .........
Canal World

And why not discuss with the examiner that’s going to issue the certificate ? Asking on a forum is not likely to get the required try answer from a suitably qualified person.

 

[Gumpy]

Thats a very similar method of going through a bulkhead that was on my Norman just a flexible grommet for the cables and the fuel didnt fail the BSS, Its just to the left of the engine.

 

[TheMerryFisher]

Thats a very similar method of going through a bulkhead that was on my Norman just a flexible grommet for the cables and the fuel didnt fail the BSS, Its just to the left of the engine.

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Thank you for being helpful! Much appreciated. I’ve had a good chat with BSS who clarified the issue and it’s an easy fix.

 

[Boat2016]

I totally agree with your comment, but, I cannot be the only outboard boat on the river. Many other people must have been in the same position but yet it doesn’t seem so as I’ve not had one person anywhere offer photos of their setups/changes they had to make.

Is your boat a model often used on inland waterways, as otherwise it may not be an issue that’s been previously seen.

 

[Momac]

Thank you for being helpful! Much appreciated. I’ve had a good chat with BSS who clarified the issue and it’s an easy fix.

In case of future need could you let us know what the clarification was and what the easy fix is ?

 

[Momac]

And why not discuss with the examiner that’s going to issue the certificate ? Asking on a forum is not likely to get the required try answer from a suitably qualified person.

Probably best not ask any questions on any forum then.

 

[TheMerryFisher]

So I clarified with BSS that the entire hose to the outboard has to be fire retardant. You can get around this by having fire retardant inside and outboard hose outside. I’m going to upgrade the whole hose.
I will post photos before and after. Thanks to those with the sensible inputs, always appreciated!

 

[SC35]

So I clarified with BSS that the entire hose to the outboard has to be fire retardant. You can get around this by having fire retardant inside and outboard hose outside. I’m going to upgrade the whole hose.
I will post photos before and after. Thanks to those with the sensible inputs, always appreciated!

Thanks for clarifying what the actual issue is.

All hose used in the fuel system must be fire resistant to at least 21/2 minutes, as specified in the internationally agreed marine fuel hose Standard (BS EN ISO 7840), although there are hoses available with superior fire resisting qualities (e.g. BS ISO 15540). Both of these hoses will also meet the current requirement for reinforcement and wall thickness.

I'm a little surprised that a reasonably modern production boat doesn't already have a fuel hose that meets the standard.
But hopefully a cheap fix.

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