Everything about Princess V48 MK1

[ari]

D6 is a strange kind of machine-creature.... I have lost trust, and trust is needed when you are 20-30 miles away from shore.

Totally accept your comments regarding wanting shaft drive, and absolutely understand the 'less to go wrong' benefits vs outdrive. But I'm curious, it sounds like your big issue is with the D6 engines and not the outdrives, and that you are keen to swap to D9 engines. Why do you feel that would be an improvement? Isn't the D9 just a bigger D6 (different base engine, but all the electronics and other issues still very much in place)?

That isn't meant as any kind of criticism in your thinking, I'm genuinely interested to learn if there is a fundamental improvement in reliability with the D9 over the D6 that I'm unaware of, and if so, why?

 

[ari]

Just to add as well, I do think that the original V48 is a great boat, and a very sound used boat for many reasons. Just that noise issue that I personally would find offputting. But different people find different things annoying.

 

[Nick1150]

Totally accept your comments regarding wanting shaft drive, and absolutely understand the 'less to go wrong' benefits vs outdrive. But I'm curious, it sounds like your big issue is with the D6 engines and not the outdrives, and that you are keen to swap to D9 engines. Why do you feel that would be an improvement? Isn't the D9 just a bigger D6 (different base engine, but all the electronics and other issues still very much in place)?

That isn't meant as any kind of criticism in your thinking, I'm genuinely interested to learn if there is a fundamental improvement in reliability with the D9 over the D6 that I'm unaware of, and if so, why?

Thanks for your answer, I really appreciate your concerns, which indeed find me in the same pace....

I had the same question to my mechanic... he said D9 has nothing to do with D4 and D6, D9s are a different breed.

If he is right or wrong I cannot judge, I am not an expert, I would be more than happy to accept any comments from D9 owners-users.

As far as outdrives, yes you are right, Ari, I never had an issue, because back in 2019 when I bought the boat I did a total refit, and in 2022 a heavy service... So I do not have an issue with the outdrives actually, but I feel safer with a non D6 solution. And at least to my knowledge other than Mercruiser/Cummins there is no other alternative than a D6 with outdrives...

Hope that is clearer now....

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Was the V46/V48 available with Caterpillars? Don’t particularly recall that, but maybe they were offered in the US markets?

 

[Portofino]

If you are based in Greece in the 14-15 M sports boat market ,then look at ( in no particular order ) Itama , Baia , Rizzardi , Magnum .

With 12-13 L motors on hassle free shafts or surface drives where applicable operating in high teens rpms and none Volvo , nothing to bite you on the arse .
Motors based on land based blocks with zillions of applications WW . MAN , CAT , Cummins , MTU ( Itama 46 ) et al .

What’s the fascination with an aged Prinny completely overshadowed by any of the above ?

 

[Nick1150]

If you are based in Greece in the 14-15 M sports boat market ,then look at ( in no particular order ) Itama , Baia , Rizzardi , Magnum .

With 12-13 L motors on hassle free shafts or surface drives where applicable operating in high teens rpms and none Volvo , nothing to bite you on the arse .
Motors based on land based blocks with zillions of applications WW . MAN , CAT , Cummins , MTU ( Itama 46 ) et al .

What’s the fascination with an aged Prinny completely overshadowed by any of the above ?

Thanks for the proposals..... I live aboard for 1 month Sir (every August), so hotel amenities matter.

 

[marcochi76]

Have you considered a Pershing 50?
Or 46

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Now that’s a nice idea.

 

[Nick1150]

Have you considered a Pershing 50?
Or 46

Yes I did.... Pershing 50 is out of my budget, to be honest subjectively Pershing 46 is way better than the V48, but I miss the tender garage and the ease of stern access to the sea and as you know we Med moore here with our stern....

 

[ari]

Thanks for your answer, I really appreciate your concerns, which indeed find me in the same pace....

I had the same question to my mechanic... he said D9 has nothing to do with D4 and D6, D9s are a different breed.

If he is right or wrong I cannot judge, I am not an expert, I would be more than happy to accept any comments from D9 owners-users.

As far as outdrives, yes you are right, Ari, I never had an issue, because back in 2019 when I bought the boat I did a total refit, and in 2022 a heavy service... So I do not have an issue with the outdrives actually, but I feel safer with a non D6 solution. And at least to my knowledge other than Mercruiser/Cummins there is no other alternative than a D6 with outdrives...

Hope that is clearer now....

That's very interesting, thank you for explaining. I've run a boat with D4 engines and really rated them, smooth, (relatively) economical and completely smoke free (particularly in comparison with older diesel boats I've owned, AQAD 41 engines in particular were quite smokey, especially when cold). But then they didn't go wrong, my view might have been different if they had. The only small issues I had (and my area of concern with them) is with the electronics (I had gear shifting problems, an engine would stall going in or out of gear, just when you most need it!). I'd be surprised if the electronics were much different on the D9s, but maybe his concerns were elsewhere and I was just lucky.